I am trying to install a Linux system into my system (see sig). But RedHat won't boot though the installation is ok. I was told that it was because the lack of support of the Duron CPU. Is there a distribution out there supporting my system?
What Linux distribution?
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Thats BS, it will support any x86 compatible from the 386 and up, including K7 and all its versions, including Durons.
What happens when you attempt to boot, dexcribe the problem in more detail.
What happens when you attempt to boot, dexcribe the problem in more detail.
Ok, the guy is either clueless or a newbie 
But still, default RH6 boot disks have trouble with Athlon/Duron systems. The kernel used on these floppies disable P3 ID code, but Athlon doesn't have one and the kernel panics because of it. There are updated boot floppies and kernel packages available (do you people ever check updates before panicking?)
But still, default RH6 boot disks have trouble with Athlon/Duron systems. The kernel used on these floppies disable P3 ID code, but Athlon doesn't have one and the kernel panics because of it. There are updated boot floppies and kernel packages available (do you people ever check updates before panicking?)
Yep. I am a newbie.
sunner: What is BS? The system would try to boot linux. After some messages and it halted at a line saying 'cannot syncing' ....
andri: What is the patch you are talking about? Do I have to use a floppy to boot? I did try to install Linux and let the installer creat a boot disk. But when I try to boot from the floppy, it was even was and wasn't able to finish "LILI".
I'm a Linux newbie, but I've heard enough about Redhat's bugginess and instability. Try another distribution (Mandrake anongst others), and your problems may go away.
I'm learning Linux the hard & rewarding way--Slackware. No X-Windows until I learn to recompile the kernel (x686 optimized, no unneeded drivers) and install XFree86 myself from text mode I'm doing pretty well so far.
Actually, once I learn all the essentials, I'll try and build my own distro ("Linux from Scratch". Should be fun, as I'd pour the latest proven software into it (and no unneeded bloat). Plus, custom-compiled for my CPU/hardware
I'm doing pretty well so far.Actually, once I learn all the essentials, I'll try and build my own distro ("Linux from Scratch"
. Should be fun, as I'd pour the latest proven software into it (and no unneeded bloat). Plus, custom-compiled for my CPU/hardware If I may ask Leo, what source of documentation or books are you using? This is my first go round with Linux, and although I know some Unix, I'm clueless at the command prompt.
Thanks,
Brian
Thanks,
Brian
Brian07, I'm using a book highly recommended by fellow Anandtechers as well as my Linux guru friend: O'Reilly's Running Linux.
It's a book that comfortably teaches you the essentials of Linux from the ground up (instead of glossing over the important details). They really do cover most crucial stuff, from basic configuration and a Unix crash course (although they suggest a Unix book), to system maintenance and truly cool Linux stuff like custom-compiling the kernel and installing/configuring X-windows. (As well as getting built-in and online help).
It's a book that comfortably teaches you the essentials of Linux from the ground up (instead of glossing over the important details). They really do cover most crucial stuff, from basic configuration and a Unix crash course (although they suggest a Unix book), to system maintenance and truly cool Linux stuff like custom-compiling the kernel and installing/configuring X-windows. (As well as getting built-in and online help).
I originally started with Mandrake 7.2beta3 (which worked flawlessly out-of-the-box), but quickly realized this is no way to learn Linux. Instead, I went with Slackware final, a conservative distro oriented for stability and maximum Unix compatibility.
I didn't even install X (it came with an old version anyway), but instead started with the command prompt. I had practically zero Unix experience, and frankly anything without a GUI intimidated me. Over a couple days of experimentation, I've grown to love the power of Unix textmode, with its astounding stream redirection and scripting capabilities! The intimidation is gone like a bad dream!
Now I'm experimenting with programming and gcc compilation. Once I'm confident enough, I'll custom-compile and install Linux 2.2.17, then X-windows, and finally NVIDIA's latest drivers. The most important thing is the learning process, and this is exactly why this "incremental" process works wonders.
I'll eventually nuke this installation anyway, and perhaps custom-compile my own Linux distro once I know what I'm doing. It'll be the most rewarding, since you can completely optimize everything for your CPU, hardware, and needs.
I didn't even install X (it came with an old version anyway), but instead started with the command prompt. I had practically zero Unix experience, and frankly anything without a GUI intimidated me. Over a couple days of experimentation, I've grown to love the power of Unix textmode, with its astounding stream redirection and scripting capabilities! The intimidation is gone like a bad dream!
Now I'm experimenting with programming and gcc compilation. Once I'm confident enough, I'll custom-compile and install Linux 2.2.17, then X-windows, and finally NVIDIA's latest drivers. The most important thing is the learning process, and this is exactly why this "incremental" process works wonders.
I'll eventually nuke this installation anyway, and perhaps custom-compile my own Linux distro once I know what I'm doing. It'll be the most rewarding, since you can completely optimize everything for your CPU, hardware, and needs.
Thanks for the feedback, I appreciate it. I'll look for the book you mentioned and give it a shot. I'm starting with Mandrake 7.1, but I think I may resort to something more in line with what you've mentioned.
Thanks!!
Brian
Thanks!!
Brian
I personally prefer Red Hat 6.2. I tried SuSE 6.2, Slackware 7.0, and Mandrake 7.1, and found them to be full of bugs. For example, when Mandrake 7.1 asked for the extension CD (CD 2), it failed to unmount the CDROM drive, which means I couldn't use the second disk. Frustrated, I used a paperclip (I wanted to use the second CD) to open the drive and place the extension disk in the tray, and when the drive started reading the disk the computer froze. I wonder if Mandrake does any bug testing at all. I also could not get my network configured (I have a D-Link 530 TX+ using the VIA Rhine module).
In SuSE 6.2, installation was fairly easy, but when I connected to the internet using KPPP, I could only access the Internet by typing the IP address instead of the Domain Name of the server like usual. Using Yast, I tried to specify a Name Server so that I could use Domain Names, but every server that I specified wouldn't work. I also couldn't disconnect from my ISP by pressing the usual combinations of buttons (I think it was Ctrl C), I had to unplug the cord from the wall.
Slackware was the worst of all. It was fairly easy to install, but configuration was a pain. I tried to configure X using the xf86configure utility (text), and chose the 'Microsoft serial 2-button mouse' option and the correct port. When I started X, the mouse would not work properly (it acted like the buttons were being pressed down constantly).
I am fairly new to Linux; I usually try, get frustrated by the bugs and lack of user friendly-ness, and then put beloved Win 2000 back on. I just bought an old P200 MMX that I am going to use as a gateway to the internet for my other two computers (and to finally play around with Linux without suffering from the lack of software and hardware support). I have installed all of the above distros on the computer and all have failed miserably due to the exact same bugs I have always had problems with. Only Red Hat 6.2 has not given me the same problems. It is the cleanest, easiest install/configuration that I have ever done (easier than Mandrake 7.1).
In SuSE 6.2, installation was fairly easy, but when I connected to the internet using KPPP, I could only access the Internet by typing the IP address instead of the Domain Name of the server like usual. Using Yast, I tried to specify a Name Server so that I could use Domain Names, but every server that I specified wouldn't work. I also couldn't disconnect from my ISP by pressing the usual combinations of buttons (I think it was Ctrl C), I had to unplug the cord from the wall.
Slackware was the worst of all. It was fairly easy to install, but configuration was a pain. I tried to configure X using the xf86configure utility (text), and chose the 'Microsoft serial 2-button mouse' option and the correct port. When I started X, the mouse would not work properly (it acted like the buttons were being pressed down constantly).
I am fairly new to Linux; I usually try, get frustrated by the bugs and lack of user friendly-ness, and then put beloved Win 2000 back on. I just bought an old P200 MMX that I am going to use as a gateway to the internet for my other two computers (and to finally play around with Linux without suffering from the lack of software and hardware support). I have installed all of the above distros on the computer and all have failed miserably due to the exact same bugs I have always had problems with. Only Red Hat 6.2 has not given me the same problems. It is the cleanest, easiest install/configuration that I have ever done (easier than Mandrake 7.1).
Anyway, I came across a magzine (Linux Format) with a 'free' 'Corel Linux' CD-ROM. I then checked out the Corel Linux homepage and found out that it claims to support Duron. So I bought it and installed it on my computer. The first time was fruitless. But I finally figured out that it was the partition software ( Partition manager ) who was to be blamed. I used the partition method builtin with the installation process to re-part-format the Linux partion and then everything is OK. I havn't got a chance to see other distros but this one looks fairly good and the installation is pretty easy. It is easy to use as well.
'Corel Linux' CD-ROM. I then checked out the Corel Linux homepage and found out that it claims to support Duron. So I bought it and installed it on my computer. The first time was fruitless. But I finally figured out that it was the partition software ( Partition manager ) who was to be blamed. I used the partition method builtin with the installation process to re-part-format the Linux partion and then everything is OK. I havn't got a chance to see other distros but this one looks fairly good and the installation is pretty easy. It is easy to use as well.Back when i started with Linux (Slackware, kernel 1.2), i bought a book called The Linux Bible. I have no idea if its still available and it might be a lil outdated, but it still is a great reference on all basic Linux commands and setups.
i run slackware 7.1
its not as user friendly as mandrake but i dont care about that.
this whole post is bullshit. its like asking what OS should i run. you should say what you're using it for.
i use slackware for my router/ipmasq box and counter-strike server and rarely run X on it.
im an intermediate linux user, but if i was a newbie and only wanted linux as a email/web machine i might run mandrake.
but hell why run linux if all u use it for is email/porn (oops i mean web) access. windows does that without crashing. i know you might argue windows instability but thats BS. i crash netscape in X (when i do use it) as often as i crash IE (just IE takes down the whole OS).
im not pro-windows but for a newbie like fow99, why learn linux? unless hes trying to learn to be a network admin or something like that. but you can get an MCSE and an admin job a lot easier than a linux job. and to be an MCSE you dont have to know anything. ive know high school grads with an MCSE who make just as good windows admin as college grads with all sorts of linux and unix skills.
the point im trying to make is simple. there are lots of jobs for MCSEs. MCSEs dont have to actually understand how these windows machines work. they just know the workarounds. the true network engineers/admins i've met all started on unix or linux. computer "professionals" like MCSEs don't have to know anything. they only need to know how to move the mouse around the screen. windows is so damn easy but you still can't do anything productive or reliable.
its not as user friendly as mandrake but i dont care about that.
this whole post is bullshit. its like asking what OS should i run. you should say what you're using it for.
i use slackware for my router/ipmasq box and counter-strike server and rarely run X on it.
im an intermediate linux user, but if i was a newbie and only wanted linux as a email/web machine i might run mandrake.
but hell why run linux if all u use it for is email/porn (oops i mean web) access. windows does that without crashing. i know you might argue windows instability but thats BS. i crash netscape in X (when i do use it) as often as i crash IE (just IE takes down the whole OS).
im not pro-windows but for a newbie like fow99, why learn linux? unless hes trying to learn to be a network admin or something like that. but you can get an MCSE and an admin job a lot easier than a linux job. and to be an MCSE you dont have to know anything. ive know high school grads with an MCSE who make just as good windows admin as college grads with all sorts of linux and unix skills.
the point im trying to make is simple. there are lots of jobs for MCSEs. MCSEs dont have to actually understand how these windows machines work. they just know the workarounds. the true network engineers/admins i've met all started on unix or linux. computer "professionals" like MCSEs don't have to know anything. they only need to know how to move the mouse around the screen. windows is so damn easy but you still can't do anything productive or reliable.
I might not be good at admi or anything like that. But I've been living with SunOS for over 2 yrs and I am happy with that. Now I want to extend this happiness to my home and also, if I am in the moode, get some work done before I go to bed. Yes, I do run X. But I don't have internet access at home. What I mainly do in Linux is programming stuff with gcc, vi, make, bla, bla, and typesetting stuff with latex, gnuplot. What the heck did you think that using Linux for these is worse than a router? Or running netscape is lower class? Who the hell said that you have to learn admi ... running Linux? BS? Watch your mouth.
MCSE means Minesweeper Consultant & Solitaire Expert.
Worthless certificate, maybe managers and other MCSE cert owners appreciate it, but it doesn't show much.
Worthless certificate, maybe managers and other MCSE cert owners appreciate it, but it doesn't show much.
linux is way too over-rated. FreeBSD is at least 2 times faster than any linux distro and it can run all linux binaries. i have never had probs with installing freebsd on athlons or durons.
i would have to agree that an MCSE is worthless these days also.
i would have to agree that an MCSE is worthless these days also.
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