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What legitimate uses do mass CD/DVD duplicators have?

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I'm not arguing that they don't have a large legit market, they must, I just can't think what that is right now. Even piracy doesn't make much sense since most of the pirated discs you buy overseas aren't CD/DVD-+Rs but are actually pressed "originals".
 
Lot's of commercial uses that are legitimate. Small software companies for publishing. IT departments deploying apps/updates. Medical facilities use them to burn images. Artists using them to produce albums. Ect.
 
When we release a new version of our software and want to ship it out. When we had fewer clients a single CD burner was sufficient, but multiple disk burning would have been so much better.
 
distribution of custom software internally. distribution of licensed bulk software (university + deal with MS = cheap burned copies of windows)
 
Bands selling instant club / concert recordings and their studio CDs, Churches selling sermons or choir recordings, Amateur / university music groups, school plays, wedding souvenirs, software duplication (commercial and IT staff)
 
A company I used to work for wrote their own software which was bundled on CD with the product.

Take a wild guess.
 
There are plenty of legitimate uses.

And interestingly enough, manufacturers of devices like this are protected from any liability in copyright infringement as long as there are legitimate uses for the product. I think this was decided by the courts back when Sony was fighting VCRs (claiming it would kill their business, which of course we know now to be bollocks). You'd think the same logic could be applied to torrent trackers and other sites that can be used for copyright infringement, but it seems like the courts rule against them more often than not.
 
Originally posted by: frostedflakes
There are plenty of legitimate uses.

And interestingly enough, manufacturers of devices like this are protected from any liability in copyright infringement as long as there are legitimate uses for the product. I think this was decided by the courts back when Sony was fighting VCRs (claiming it would kill their business, which of course we know now to be bollocks). You'd think the same logic could be applied to torrent trackers and other sites that can be used for copyright infringement, but it seems like the courts rule against them more often than not.
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I feel that torrent trackers are a little different. I don't go to the PirateBay to find the latest Ubuntu distro tracker....

I'm not saying there aren't legal uses for torrents and plenty of legally available media through something like that.

I don't want to derail the discussion.

Towards the original discussion: I could see small-time artists that do their own in-house recording/mastering/production and small software vendors.
 
Originally posted by: Brainonska511
Originally posted by: frostedflakes
There are plenty of legitimate uses.

And interestingly enough, manufacturers of devices like this are protected from any liability in copyright infringement as long as there are legitimate uses for the product. I think this was decided by the courts back when Sony was fighting VCRs (claiming it would kill their business, which of course we know now to be bollocks). You'd think the same logic could be applied to torrent trackers and other sites that can be used for copyright infringement, but it seems like the courts rule against them more often than not.
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I feel that torrent trackers are a little different. I don't go to the PirateBay to find the latest Ubuntu distro tracker....

I'm not saying there aren't legal uses for torrents and plenty of legally available media through something like that.

I don't want to derail the discussion.

Towards the original discussion: I could see small-time artists that do their own in-house recording/mastering/production and small software vendors.
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I doubt many people bought VCRs for "legitimate" uses either. As a kid my family probably had well over 100 movies on VHS (copied from either TV or an original VHS tape). 😛

They obviously aren't totally comparable, though. I guess one of the biggest differences is that file sharing allows you to make a 1:1 digital copy of something, whereas dubbing cassettes or VHS didn't result in a perfect copy. I think the fact that these days you can share something hundreds or thousands of times with no degradation is what really scares copyright owners.
 
Originally posted by: vi edit
Lot's of commercial uses that are legitimate. Small software companies for publishing. IT departments deploying apps/updates. Medical facilities use them to burn images. Artists using them to produce albums. Ect.
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We use them to send out annual research reports to industry and educational around the states and the world.
 
What's the average error rate on one of these things? How often do you encounter screw ups? I'd like to hear some anecdotes.
 
Ahh right internal IT distribution. Yeah now that makes sense thanks.

nerp: Just find out the failure rate of the individual drive x number of drives. I'm sure it's not exactly 100% that simple but probably close. A lot of people here can probably attest to burning hundreds of discs at home with only one or two coasters. Course a test burn on one of these babies would be an absolute must. Fcuk up something on the master before starting a 100 disc burn.... ouch.
 
why bother paying for cds and machines and shit when you can just utilize the bandwidth you should already have? hard media is old and expensive.
 
Originally posted by: OogyWaWa
why bother paying for cds and machines and shit when you can just utilize the bandwidth you should already have? hard media is old and expensive.
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Because many of the people who are going to use those CD/DVDs don't want to spend their time downloading things.

The CAD software we use is 3GB-5GB depending on how many of the modules we use. My choices are downloading or requesting a DVD which I will receive the next day. I'm going to request a DVD every time.
 
Originally posted by: nerp
What's the average error rate on one of these things? How often do you encounter screw ups? I'd like to hear some anecdotes.
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We haven't had problems with burn errors. It's usually mechanical with the load arms or other moving parts in the device.
 
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