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what kinda job(s) can i get with this degree?

I've been looking for a job for 5 months. I've got knowlegde, a CCNA, and the desire to work with computers. That all doesn't mean Jack sh*t. Everyone wants to see experience on your resume. I can run circles around some of the network techs I've met, along with the MIS guys, but still no offers. If they offer an internship, that will be your best friend on your resume.

After you get a job, hire me...
 
I've been doing this type job for a long time and have never had any trouble finding employment. My son was hired at age 18 with 1 year of college, and at age 22 is making almost as much as I, and he has job offers constantly. You WILL make more money with a degree. Salary range can be anywhere from 21,000 to 45,000.
 
thats good, they do offer an internship with some company.

And I would also need to make atleast $30k a year...

so I dont NEED to have a MCSE or MCP Certification to get a good job? or do i?
 
I have yet to interview a good MCSE. With the advent of training software, exam cram books and hype surrounding these MS certs, it seems that there has been an influx of paper MCSEs.

My friend recently got his MCSE. The last test he passed was the II4 test. So, a week after he passed it, I asked him what a 404 error was. He had no idea. This is indicative of a lot of the MCSEs I have interview for positions in my group. A lot of them can pass the test, but because they do not use it all the time, they simply lack knowledge. IS managers have figured this out and aren't necessarily interested in paper certs as much as they used to be.

I have also worked with people who have computer science degrees that didn't know crap about computers. They could barely code (half of them got stuck at pointers but somehow got their degree) and were pretty non productive in the work place. So, a degree isn't necessarily THE answer.

This what I have seen as a great method for landing a job. It takes time, but it works.

Really, you need to get an entry level job - just to get your foot in the door. I'd recommend either tech support, help desk or entry level QA. All of these jobs are pretty easy to land and will help you learn quite a bit about computers (especially QA if you get the chance to work with engineering).

During all of this, I would recommend putting together a home network of some kind and going crazy with it. Because.. if you can get into an interview and tell them what kind of stuff you have done, all the home networking craziness, they will usually be impressed. If you want to get your MCSE and CCNA, this would also be a great chance to go and do it. I wouldn't recommend trying to get an IT job right off the bat with no work experience and just certs - it usually doesn't happen.
 
When I went back to college (for the last time) I started a corporation (non IT based) at home which I used as a reference on my resume. I didnt lie as I really was the one responsible for installing, building, & trouble-shooting the company network even though I was just starting on the IT path. I passed the interview testing so I had the base knowledge they required so even that minimal experience helped. Its been many years and I've yet to get my certs but financially I'm very happy. Yes, I started out quite low on the pay scale at that first job. Also I wanted to learn/know all I could so I retained much of what I was shown.
Jsm has a real good point, you'll learn alot on that home network. Kinda like the first computer..you gotta break it to figure out how it works.
good luck
 
Spanker has it right. Doing the at home network rules. Do everything from building your machines, to wiring the network, and installing and configuring the systems. Build your own email/ftp/web servers. School is a great place to learn the basics of how systems work, but will never teach you any real world problems or techniques. I've learned more in an afternoon of troubleshooting, than I learned in a week at school. It's always nice to have a teacher who knows the answer when you're stumped. Assuming they aren't paper certs either.
Books and forums are invaluable for learning too...

JSM- if you're hiring let me know. I also live in San Jose

hmmm... I wonder how many people have been hired through forums like this.
 
I am actually leaving the company I am working for (Palm Computing) to be a senior consultant at a Windows/UNIX consulting firm. Mail your resume to me.

jsmahler@hotmail.com

We are going to be hiring a tech for my group next month.
 
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