What kind of Republican are you?

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What kind of Republican are you?

  • Lincoln Republican

  • Harding/Robert A Taft (Ron Paul) Republican (protectionist or non-protectionist)

  • Reagan/Kristol Republican

  • Rockefeller Republican

  • A mix of the one or more of the 4


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May 16, 2000
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Actually as a southerner I have to overcome my own biases and ask how could the greatest Republican president really be anyone other than Lincoln?

Ummm, refused to allow self-governance of American citizens, suspended habeas corpous, gave Sherman free rein, treatment of indians, etc, etc.
 

manimal

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Mar 30, 2007
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I must put my support behind tr as well. Reading the final book in his recent trilogy and would recommend it to any student or lover of history.



Imagine if Wilson would have let TR fight in the war....
 

Linflas

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Jan 30, 2001
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Slavery was well on it's way out in antebellum south. That war was about money like they all are. And "right to revolution" is codified by our founders in their writings and actions. Overall bad move.

I know history books have been re-written to make us look all compassionate but if you really think northern whites gave a crap about blacks let alone willing to die in massive numbers for blacks in 1860s you need to read this:
http://mises.org/journals/jls/18_4/18_4_3.pdf

It's a nice fairy tale though. I bet today (see darfur) whites would not die in masse to help black people let alone 1860s.

How could it be on the way out when the plantation owners most valuable asset was not their land or crops but their slaves? Most of them were in debt their entire lives and passed that debt on through generations. Lincoln was very clear in his determination that he was not proposing to end slavery anywhere it currently existed.

In his own words:
I would save the Union. I would save it the shortest way under the Constitution. The sooner the national authority can be restored; the nearer the Union will be "the Union as it was." If there be those who would not save the Union, unless they could at the same time save slavery, I do not agree with them. If there be those who would not save the Union unless they could at the same time destroy slavery, I do not agree with them. My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that. What I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union; and what I forbear, I forbear because I do not believe it would help to save the Union. I shall do less whenever I shall believe what I am doing hurts the cause, and I shall do more whenever I shall believe doing more will help the cause. I shall try to correct errors when shown to be errors; and I shall adopt new views so fast as they shall appear to be true views.

I have never been under any illusion that the north was fighting for the benefit of blacks, when the draft riots took place in New York blacks were murdered by the score.
 
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ShawnD1

Lifer
May 24, 2003
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I would have to say Eisenhower.

OOps....I didn't scroll down past your question to see it had already been answered.
A true American hero he was.
United states army 1915-1953, 1961-1969. That's like 46 years of military service. He was the top dog. He warned about the military industrial complex. Lots of his stuff was thinking big. Roads help with civil defense, he thought racism was an issue because communists were using it for propaganda purposes, he vowed to stop global communist revolutions, and the list goes on. Good guy :thumbsup:


(Lincoln) Ummm, refused to allow self-governance of American citizens, suspended habeas corpous, gave Sherman free rein, treatment of indians, etc, etc.
I think he was the one who took the US off the gold standard and started printing his own money to fund the war. I guess it's effectively the same as raising taxes to pay for things, but it still left people a little upset.
 

Siddhartha

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Oct 17, 1999
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Since the Republican Party has many faces, I figured I'd ask what kind of Republican people were. Everyone could identify with the Republican Party at one point, just like everyone could identify with the Democratic Party at one point. If Dr. Paul lived 120 years ago, he'd be a Bourbon Democrat. However, since Wilson changed the face of the Democratic Party, he's a Harding/Bob A Taft/Charles A Lindbergh Republican.

How do you define\describe each type of Republican in your poll?
 

CallMeJoe

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Jul 30, 2004
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Lincoln Republican=classic Authoritarian. Which is why I didn't include an option for TJR.
Harding Republican=what I am. What Dr. paul is.
Rockefeller Republican=flaming liberal.
You don't understand Theodore Roosevelt, so you omitted him from your poll. You entirely misunderstand Abraham Lincoln and Nelson Rockefeller. You idealize probably the worst president of the twentieth century.

What exactly is the sense of this poll of yours?