What kind of referendums were on your ballot today?

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Lothar

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: ntdz
There was no measure for legalizing marijuana in California, at least not in my district. I voted against Prop 86 and 87, one is a $2.60 tax increase on cigs that won't be used for anything to do with healthcare or smoking prevention, the other was $4 billion increase in oil taxes.

Those props were absolutely terrible. I honestly believe that the Californian voters are dumb enough to pass them though.

I don't see a problem with increasing taxes on cigs...They can raise taxes to 100% and I'd still vote for it. If it stops people from buying and smoking them, then so be it.
Smoking is bad for your health anyways.

And the other Prop is just stupid.

Screw your neighbor, make yourself blind?

The problem with taxing cigarettes is deciding whether you're punishing people for their bad choices (and thus being a socially conservative moral authoritarian) or if you are trying to increase revenue for the state (and thus making the state a "merchant of death" profiting from tobacco sales). There is no stopping people from smoking just by raising the cost, anymore than the war on drugs has stopped people from doing drugs just by making drugs illegal.

 

[herkulease]

the MJ thing is in Santa Cruz.

they trying make so that possession will be the lowest priority for cops there. I don't live in santa cruz so I didn't read it extensively. But I don't believe it ever said it would make MJ legal.

last I read even the liberals in Santa Cruz think it is a stupid thing.

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Hmm... English as the official language of AZ. Cool...

 

[aloser]

Originally posted by: route66
Wisconsin:

#1 - Outlaw civil unions between non married man+woman couples (aka a further ban on gay marriage)
#2 - Pullout of Iraq now? (seriously, what can one state do?)

Where are you located? I'm in Door County and we had marriage and whether to implement the death penalty. We had Iraq on the ballot back in April primary.

Edit: I suck at teh quoting

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: Lothar

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: ntdz
There was no measure for legalizing marijuana in California, at least not in my district. I voted against Prop 86 and 87, one is a $2.60 tax increase on cigs that won't be used for anything to do with healthcare or smoking prevention, the other was $4 billion increase in oil taxes.

Those props were absolutely terrible. I honestly believe that the Californian voters are dumb enough to pass them though.

I don't see a problem with increasing taxes on cigs...They can raise taxes to 100% and I'd still vote for it. If it stops people from buying and smoking them, then so be it.
Smoking is bad for your health anyways.

And the other Prop is just stupid.

That is great, next up is red meat, chicken, pork or anything else the animal rights lobby shoves down your throat. After that lets go after those terrible cars and jack the taxes up on them and then housing, if you can afford a house, you can afford higher taxes!

Isnt govt tyranny grand?

 

[Genx87]

btw I believe the transportation amendment was soundly defeated in MN. I am glad becuase the wording on it was horrible. It was nothing but welfare for mass transit. Without surprise contractors and state employees really wanted it. Anything to build trains instead of lanes.

 

[Zorba]

I didn't have any in Kansas, besides judge issues.

 

[aka1nas]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: ntdz
There was no measure for legalizing marijuana in California, at least not in my district. I voted against Prop 86 and 87, one is a $2.60 tax increase on cigs that won't be used for anything to do with healthcare or smoking prevention, the other was $4 billion increase in oil taxes.

Those props were absolutely terrible. I honestly believe that the Californian voters are dumb enough to pass them though.

Gee thanks.

Actually it looks like we voted them down,

One proposition we had that happily looks like will pass is one aimed at preventing Eminent Domain seizures that transfer any property to private entities.

 

[imported_Lothar]

Maryland Question 1. Requires legislature's approval before public works board sells parklands.
Maryland Question 2. Increases appeals to Court of Special Appeals.
Maryland Question 3. Limits right to jury trial for civil cases of less than $10,000.
Maryland Question 4. Should supermajorities be needed at state election board, and should local election board procedures be changed?

Voted No, No, No, and No on all of them.

 

[0roo0roo]

we had a stupid one on cigs...tax that is. cept it was kinda excessive. i'm not a fan of excessive vice taxes. if ur gonna do that to the smokers, might as well hit the rest of the vices too to be fair. 300% tax on gas for instance. same on suvs and mcdonalds. so it gets rather silly...

and of course the whole parental notification thing for abortion...nonsense.

and sex predators...thats popular this year. i live near a park so i guess it'll bump my house value i feel sorry for everyone else though... i'm sure realtors have pedo maps now to base home values on lol i voted no on it since it just shuffles around the problem

 

[Puwaha]

In Tennessee...

Amendment 1: Constitutional amendment to only recognize marriage between one man and one woman. I voted no, but it passed by well over 80%. Not a surprise... but a definite ploy to get base-republicans out to vote. (The person who proposed this amendment is now going to propose another to make it harder to divorce.)

Amendment 2: Constitutional amendment to allow local governments to enact a property-tax freeze for primary residence property owners age 65. Once they turn 65, or are 65 or buy a house at 65 or over, the property tax would be set at that current rate for the life of the senior. I voted yes on this one. Seems fair to me, since most seniors are on a fixed income and can't absorb property tax increases as easily. This also passed with over 80% approval.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: aka1nas

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: ntdz
There was no measure for legalizing marijuana in California, at least not in my district. I voted against Prop 86 and 87, one is a $2.60 tax increase on cigs that won't be used for anything to do with healthcare or smoking prevention, the other was $4 billion increase in oil taxes.

Those props were absolutely terrible. I honestly believe that the Californian voters are dumb enough to pass them though.

Gee thanks.

Actually it looks like we voted them down,

One proposition we had that happily looks like will pass is one aimed at preventing Eminent Domain seizures that transfer any property to private entities.

I'm impressed. We also passed (in a landslide) a similar ballot measure here in Oregon, despite overwhelming media propaganda and liberal opposition (which I found somewhat surprising).

I'm very surprised that Props 86 and 87 failed. Both of them were populist-cause-disguised big business grants.