Yeah, but if the harder fields don't interest someone at all, they might have a hard time realizing any success from them.
Yeah, but if the harder fields don't interest someone at all, they might have a hard time realizing any success from them.
Quite a bit, since psychology is pretty much foundational to every aspect of human existence. Law enforcement, counselor (especially at a school), research assistant (in psych programs for example), any form of manager will do better with such knowledge (though most would also like to see a business degree), etc.
Yuppers...you're totally right. It was no trouble whatsoever to go through four years with an average of 25-30 required texts a semester, another 20-40 full books a semester for projects and outside research, 100+ journal articles a semester, writing 60-100 pages a week, spending every free moment traveling around to archives and museums and other academic centers for research and collecting needed data, all culminating in a 50 page publishable original work capable of enduring peer review.
Would have been so much harder to spend a couple hours a day working math problems out of a book or two from the comfort of your home.
Look, I left computer science because I knew I didn't want to work in the field, but there wasn't anything all that difficult in it. My first undergrad was a BA in History with a minor in PoliSci. It was BRUTAL, even with a love of the material. Now I'm doing a double BS, Math and Chemistry. This is so much easier it isn't even funny. Now I'll grant you that advanced sciences are very difficult subjects in their own way, but unless you've done it yourself to make the comparison you might want to reconsider your opinions.
ooops, meant this as an edit, not a reply. Oh well.
Psychology only complements other degrees. What I mean is if your a marketing major with psychology degree and can figure out why people act the way they do toward your product or your location of service etc..
lol, I am glad every psychologist in the world has you to thank them for saving themselves from their stupidity.
I have a psych BS and I probably make multiples of what you do. I got my BS not because it was easy, but because I really thought I wanted to become a pshrink. I found out later I didn't.
I am glad you know so much about the world though. Your own knowledge of psychology itself is amazing, since you can obviously know what people are thinking/doing/feeling, because you know the motivations. Furthermore, you know about statistics and quantitative analysis so much that you know that *all* people in psych are morons looking for an easy ride. There's no such thing as a normal distribution, or deviations, it's all just fact because you say so.
Go right ahead sparky, keep thinking that while you visit your psrink to try to figure out why you hate yourself.
Jeff7
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I liked something a coworker told me:
His father and grandfather both got degrees in mathematics, so that they could teach math. They'd teach math to other people, who would also earn math degrees so that they too could teach math. It's like some self-feeding machine.
So there you go, earn an otherwise useless degree, so that you can teach other people to use this otherwise useless degree, so that they too can teach it.
My dad got a bachelor's degree in psychology. Never used it. He got and then held a job as an administrative assistant. I think he's had it since before I was born, and will retire from that same job. He tried getting a Master's degree, but he couldn't finish the required internship because of his work schedule. I really don't know what he plans to do anymore. Starting his own practice would require money that our family just doesn't have, and even so it'd be a monetary risk that we're just not willing or able to take.
But with a master's, like some people have mentioned, then you'd open yourself up to a much more accepting job market.
I was a psych major in the bad old days before all of the hub-bub about neuroscience programs. Granted psych was pretty soft, but I've always loved the brain's disciplines.
Anyways, while I was still a junior, I got a part time job at a local state involuntary psych facility and I got up close and personal with all of the abnormal psych I had only read about. It was awesome.
Then I went to the NIMH in Bethesda, MD and did 4 years of MRI research on schizophrenia while taking some classes at the local universities. What's really awesome is having a 5 million dollar 3 tesla MRI scanner at your fingertips and looking at brains all day.
Now i'm painfully back in skool again and coming to hospital possibly near you in 2010.
I still love brains.
If your friend has any real interest in psych then he'll figure something out for himself.
If he's the overly-pontificating type then give him 5-across-the-eyes and tell him to just get out and try something.
Pay is going to suck, but if he wanted big money then he needs a more enterprising major. Perhaps Industrial/Organizational Psych so that he can be like these guys?
Anyways, while I was still a junior, I got a part time job at a local state involuntary psych facility and I got up close and personal with all of the abnormal psych I had only read about. It was awesome.
Then I went to the NIMH in Bethesda, MD and did 4 years of MRI research on schizophrenia while taking some classes at the local universities. What's really awesome is having a 5 million dollar 3 tesla MRI scanner at your fingertips and looking at brains all day.
Now i'm painfully back in skool again and coming to hospital possibly near you in 2010.
I still love brains.
If your friend has any real interest in psych then he'll figure something out for himself.
If he's the overly-pontificating type then give him 5-across-the-eyes and tell him to just get out and try something.
Pay is going to suck, but if he wanted big money then he needs a more enterprising major. Perhaps Industrial/Organizational Psych so that he can be like these guys?
dr150
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Without a graduate the degree, Psychology is worthless in terms of progressive employment.
With experience, you can land a job that uses the degree but count yourself lucky if you can earn 25k a year.
The Psych degree is good for law school, MBA or Med School (provided you have the classes) though.
With experience, you can land a job that uses the degree but count yourself lucky if you can earn 25k a year.
The Psych degree is good for law school, MBA or Med School (provided you have the classes) though.
Right, but if the paper is all that matters, WTF is the difference?
Meaning, "We would hire you for this $130k/year job based on your 15 year of experience and great references, but you don't have a degree, so you suck."
My older sister just got a job working with autistic children. But she also plans to go to grad school. Why the hell would he get a psych degree without any intentions of going for further degrees? Is he an idiot?
You can work at starbucks. After a few years of that, you can become a job recruiter.
The mall is another place to look for employment.
The mall is another place to look for employment.
Don Vito Corleone
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I have an undergrad psych degree, and went on to law school. Honestly most liberal-arts degrees don't lend themselves readily to employment without a grad degree. I don't regret being a psych major, even if I did it largely because I had a hot Psych 202 professor.
He can be someone's husband...lol I always wonder why people take a loan to study History or Spanish if they are not planning on going to grad school.
I was not a psych major and nor do I work in a psych field, but I can tell you that the undergrad psych students and the professors that taught them all said the same thing to me when I was in college. That is, unless you get your masters or doctorate in Psych then do not expect to do ANYTHING psychology related in your career. HR is probably the closest you will get.
It makes sense to me too. Think about it...when was the last time that you met a career professional whose job was something that made you think "psychology" and he/she didn't have their doctorate or masters in Psych hanging on their office wall?
It makes sense to me too. Think about it...when was the last time that you met a career professional whose job was something that made you think "psychology" and he/she didn't have their doctorate or masters in Psych hanging on their office wall?
Abe Froman
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