What kind of gun/rifle is this??
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That is a Mosin Nagant 1944 Carbine I think. I am sleepy so I am not going to look at it too closely. Pretty common to see those among VC, great jungle carbine. 7.62x54.
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Okay I looked at it. Definately a 1944 MN. I love those guns. Looking at it it is probably worht between $50-$100. You would have to show us the arsenal markings for more info.
That is more than likely a Chinese not a Russian produced MN 1944/Type 53 if it came from a VC. You should be able to see the arsenal stampings on the top of the reciever.
Almost bought one of these in Texas last year. Russians produced a crapload of these during WWII. They apparently have a fearsome recoil because they are relatively short and light for the cartridge they fire. A friend of mine has one and doesn't like to shoot it much.
Russians actually also used them as sniper rifles, which is odd for a carbine. Vietnamese used anything and everything they could find. Against the French, they were actually better armed than the French after 1950 because the North Koreans through the Chinese gave them all the captured US military weapons that were left behind in the retreat to Pusan.
Russians actually also used them as sniper rifles, which is odd for a carbine. Vietnamese used anything and everything they could find. Against the French, they were actually better armed than the French after 1950 because the North Koreans through the Chinese gave them all the captured US military weapons that were left behind in the retreat to Pusan.
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The recoil isn't that bad. They were introduced to provide a handier rifle in urban combat situations and they proved ideal for that. They have almost a cult like following among collectors, and you can get one really really cheaply. I was actually thinking of picking one up myself this week.
On a side note, it is special to you because your Dad got it in the war, but I'm afraid it isn't worth much. I own one of these and while fun to shoot (very cheap ammo), they are $50 in "like new" condition.
http://catalog.jgsales.com/itemdetail.php?itemnumber=15-12
I figured for $50 I might as well own a peice of history. The ammo is cheap too, a thousand rounds for less than a hundred bucks.
http://catalog.jgsales.com/itemdetail.php?itemnumber=5-789c
This is the ammo for it. Cheap ammo in both price and quality, but it goes bang and only costs $80 per thousand rounds if you buy 4 "tins" of it at a time (they come in wooden military crates)
Fun stuff and you can shoot for many, many hours with a gun like this.
Hopper
http://catalog.jgsales.com/itemdetail.php?itemnumber=15-12
I figured for $50 I might as well own a peice of history. The ammo is cheap too, a thousand rounds for less than a hundred bucks.
http://catalog.jgsales.com/itemdetail.php?itemnumber=5-789c
This is the ammo for it. Cheap ammo in both price and quality, but it goes bang and only costs $80 per thousand rounds if you buy 4 "tins" of it at a time (they come in wooden military crates)
Fun stuff and you can shoot for many, many hours with a gun like this.
Hopper
LOL! Yes it is...
Of course I'm comparing it to my baby, my AR-15, so I guess that isn't a fair comparison.
It isn't too much stronger compared to the AK-47 however, so you're actually not far off.
I still much prefer shooting the AR-15 because the recoil basicly doesn't exist, it is quiet, and the ammo isn't really much more expensive.
Hopper
Hopper,
What condition was your J+G sales 1944 in? I seriously almost ordered one this afternoon. If it was decent, I am going to go ahead and get one.
Justin
What condition was your J+G sales 1944 in? I seriously almost ordered one this afternoon. If it was decent, I am going to go ahead and get one.
Justin
That is a Russian made Izhevsk Arsenal M 1944 MN Carbine. Looks to be in decent condition. You should clean it up buy some ammo and go plinking with it. (Have a gunsmith look at it first especially if you do not know much about old military battle rifles)
I didn't think you would, I was just providing the link in case anyone else wanted to buy one for some super cheap shooting fun, that's all.Originally posted by: NFS4
I don't care how much it's worth. I was just wondering what type of gun it wasIt's not like I'm gonna sell his stuff
Hopper
It was in good physical condition, but packed with grease and obviouslly had been in storage a LONG time.
$15 to my local gunsmith to clean and degrease it and it was good as new. The quality of the wood was surprising, it was in really good shape. For $50, it's one heck of a bargin. The only reason they are so cheap BTW is because they have a big warehouse full of them. They will be selling these for many years to come.
Hopper
Originally posted by: Grasshopper27
It was in good physical condition, but packed with grease and obviouslly had been in storage a LONG time.
$15 to my local gunsmith to clean and degrease it and it was good as new. The quality of the wood was surprising, it was in really good shape. For $50, it's one heck of a bargin. The only reason they are so cheap BTW is because they have a big warehouse full of them. They will be selling these for many years to come.
Hopper
How accurate is it? I have never really seriously tested the accuracy of one.
Honestly, I've got no real idea... I've only shot it at a 100-yard range so far, plinking...
I bought one of them and two of the Mausers (the one for $40 and the one for $80), both also a good buy. They use the super cheap 8mm ammo.
The reason I bought them is simply because they are cheap, interesting, and the ammo will be around for awhile for very little money. The 8mm ammo is in fact as low as 5.5 cents a round, yikes! Only .22LR is cheaper...
The rifle might well be really accurate, but unless you take the time to pratice with it, I can't imagine you'd do better than average. The only rifle I own that I bother to pratice accuracy with is my AR-15. I've got a good scope on it as well as a flip down bi-pod, so I can lay down anywhere and get decent shots off, even without taking a lot of setup time. The other point is your shoulder gets sore after awhile from the heavy caliber weapons, the AR-15 has so little kick it doesn't do anything.
Also, my ears get tired of the crack of the heavy rifles after awhile (yes, I use hearing protection, but still). Since my AR-15 is suppressed, hearing protection isn't required (I use it anyway most of the time, just in case)
Hopper
My uncle got a Mossberg M-54 or -55 as a gift, I dont really remember which model exactly, but if you ever want a rifle to practice your shooting with, that is it. 22LR, 7 round clip, bolt action, heavy barrel so you can shoot it practically forever without the barrel getting warm to the touch. Cheap to shoot, practically no kick, and its accurate. It has no rails or other accomodations for mounting a scope, but I like to practice with iron sights anyway, so it doesnt bother me.
From what I recall you can get them for $40-$60 if you are willing to accept a cracked trigger guard, which was one thing on them that was broken pretty easily.
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