What it actually takes to buy a gun in Switzerland

[kage69]

How to buy a weapon in my country. You go to the local Nigerian and ask for a Ak47 2000 rounds and he will charge you less than 100 dollars and he will throw in a couple of hand grenades for free in the deal.

I wouldn't hunt cape buffalo with anything less

 

[Zebo]

How to buy a weapon in my country. You go to the local Nigerian and ask for a Ak47 2000 rounds and he will charge you less than 100 dollars and he will throw in a couple of hand grenades for free in the deal.

dang where is this sounds like a fun place to have a party

 

[Fenixgoon]

so what you're saying....is basically it's the same as we have to do in the US, except we have a computer system. we don't have to run paperwork around everywhere.

i go to gun store.
"hey, i'd like to buy a gun."
"here, fill out this paperwork."
long gun? walk away with gun.
pistol? wait 7-14 days (typically 10) to take possession.

buy as much ammo as i want.

 

[klinc]

dang where is this sounds like a fun place to have a party

It is if your a criminal. The police can't shoot for shit and if you want cash you just go blow up a ATM machine and take what's inside. Illegal guns is way cheaper than legal guns. About 4 to 5 times cheaper.

 

[BoberFett]

I'm speaking to the ability of the nutty to kill many folks at one sitting. Not that some nutty folks may kill others but that some restriction might reduce the numbers in large scale nutty endeavors.

The largest mass killings of civilians in the US were either a) done without a single firearm or b) perpetrated by the government and not other civilians. Disarming civilians will not stop violence. It will however prevent the citizens from having a last recourse should democracy fail.

 

[DucatiMonster696]

According to a Swiss friend of mine, when being discharged from the military after compulsory service you have the option of keeping your rifle, although the armory guys remove the full auto or burst fire first.


I still think that's pretty cool.

That would still make that weapon a "Assault rifle" according to pro-gun prohibitionists just because of the other cosmetic features on it which they don't remove.

 

[BoberFett]

How to buy a weapon in my country. You go to the local Nigerian and ask for a Ak47 2000 rounds and he will charge you less than 100 dollars and he will throw in a couple of hand grenades for free in the deal.

Does he take Paypal?

 

[irishScott]

Yeah, it's Switzerland. The Swiss take freaking national pride in their bureaucracy and rules. My sister's attending a graduate program over there, and apparently she was once reported by a guy over illegal parking. She got back to her car right as he was about to make the report, and seeing that she was an American he apologized and said he'd like to cut her some slack, but it was a busy street and people would likely report him for not reporting her if he didn't.

The difference is their bureaucracy seems a lot less politicized than ours. Swiss bureaucracy seems to work for the people, American bureaucracy seems to work for itself with a reluctant side effect of providing some inefficient public service. Swiss gun restrictions are around to solve gun crime while allowing for responsible ownership, proposed American gun restrictions are proposed as part of a philosophical agenda of civilian disarmament.

 

[klinc]

Does he take Paypal?

Nah only cash. You phone them place your order whatever you want from firearms to drugs.

 

[LunarRay]

The largest mass killings of civilians in the US were either a) done without a single firearm or b) perpetrated by the government and not other civilians. Disarming civilians will not stop violence. It will however prevent the citizens from having a last recourse should democracy fail.

Well, I don't have a fear that democracy will fail ... meaning; even if the Conservative faction have both houses of Congress, the Presidency and pack the court with like minded thinkers and then go about gerrymandering the districts or method of selection to their favor, I don't worry about that.... I don't worry about much. Not even the potential for bad folks to do what they do to me personally.

What concerns me is the notion that the absence of specificity in the Constitution is somehow indicative of absence of Rights. To the contrary, and as indicated by any fair reading of the Federalist and other commentary of the time the absence of specifics should be seen as the broadest assumption of Rights to the People and the broadest restriction on government to reduce those Rights. It is why I'd support your ownership of a bazooka if you wanted one... or heck, a tank maybe.

The Courts have held that the mental capability of the individual in many arena is a primary consideration. Aside from that what level of scrutiny is appropriate to sustain a State compelling interest as it applies to guns or 2nd Amendment Rights..... I can see Felons and the Nutty as being reasonable use of the restriction but not the type of gun or its magazine...

It was contemplated that tyranny along with hunting, self defense and defense of the nation generally made up the factors (but not totally) to establish the 2nd... I don't see that all of those considerations have disappeared so if any exist they force 2nd Amendment compliance...

The question is; who is precluded from enjoying that Right and on what basis...

EDIT: Although Madison didn't know what kind of 'Arms' might be developed down the road he sure was smart enough to know there would be improvements. It is for us today to define what is prudent today, therefore. We have yet to do that and until we do Amend the Constitution we must abide by it.... Seems to me

 

[RampantAndroid]

Except it's not fully enforced, depending on how you're buying a gun. I can walk into a gun show and walk out with a gun in about 10 minutes.

Can you? I can't in WA - I have to do a WORSE background check before buying a gun at a show in WA. That is to say, the same checks as getting a CPL.

 

[piasabird]

You can buy a gun from a gun shop retail and resell it to some other person. This is perfectly legal. However, if purchased a lot of guns you might attract attention. In Alaska I think all they required was a drivers license at one time. That is how it should be. Do you really have a right to buy a gun if there is a background check?

 

[RampantAndroid]

You can buy a gun from a gun shop retail and resell it to some other person. This is perfectly legal.

Depends. Straw sales are NOT legal.

 

[Nintendesert]

Depends. Straw sales are NOT legal.

You can't go in buying retail with the intentions of selling it to someone that couldn't buy it themselves. That's why there's that question that asks whether the gun is for you.

Purchasing today and selling later in life might have been what was intended.