What is your political party and why?

T_Yamamoto

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Which is it?
Please I just want to hear both sides reasons. Please don't flame at each other. I just want to know.

Thanks.
 

thraashman

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I'm pretty sure there is literally no way for a thread like this to not turn into a flame war.

That being said, I'm moderate liberal. The Democratic party is mostly slightly liberal. The Republican party and Libertarian party are extremely conservative. I know virtually nothing of some of the more minor parties. So if I had to pick a party I'd technically be Democrat, but really they aren't liberal enough however are FAR better than the alternatives.
 
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a777pilot

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I'm a JFK democrat.


Interesting. That is how I started out in politics. Then the Democrat Party went crazy left and overly personal.

I like to say the Democrat Party left me. I did not leave the Democrat Party.

I am not a really good Republican but compared to the Democrat Party it's basically the only choice I have. Please don't say the Libertarian Party. I like most of what they stand for, but their stand on isolationism and drugs are deal breakers for me.
 

Jaskalas

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Former Republican trending Libertarian.

The switch is obvious, while the Republicans pay lip service to my beliefs of a limited government with enumerated powers, they are lead around by Neocons who do not share our values. They keep nominating these men and placing them in positions of power. Republicans betray the American ideals they claim to support.

I believe in liberty, you could say I am a liberal: favorable to or in accord with concepts of maximum individual freedom possible...

To that end I cherish the original intent of our founding fathers, to secure us from government tyranny. Only using the Federal Government to enforce the Bill of Rights, solve disputes between States, and handle affairs with other nations.

I believe the Constitution grants Congress enumerated powers not to be exceeded or bastardized by the modern interpretation of "everything necessary and proper... for the general welfare". Why bother writing a Constitution in the first place if you're going to sum it up with a one liner?

To that end I demand the expansion of State's rights and the enhanced recognition of their authority. For the Federal Government to abolish most existing laws, leaving their continued existence up to each individual State. For example, bans on drugs, guns, abortion, marriage, etc.

Homogenization can be achieved through voluntary compliance, an importaint distinction being the freedom to choose. This is in stark contrast to current compulsory national law where a tyranny of the majority gets to decide life for 315 million people.

I do not believe Democracy works at such a large scale. I do not believe this nation was founded to have a distant and unrepresentative government telling others how to live their lives. I will take my vote and try to attain my values the best I can, which is admittedly very difficult to do. It seems people enjoy telling others what to do.
 

blankslate

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I am not a really good Republican but compared to the Democrat Party

It's the Democratic party members of the Democratic party are democrats.

Please. Quit listening to Rush Limbaugh so much. Perhaps one should stoop to his level and start referring to the Republican party as Republic, Republicon, Republicant, or Republicvnt party? Language does matter as many people who are familiar with how propaganda (like Limbaugh :p) will tell you.

In my opinion it can be argued that both parties were a lot better more than 40 years ago.

The Political spectrum of this country shifted right. There are moderates in the Democratic party (democrats who are a bit more fiscally conservative) almost none in the Republican party these days.
 
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a777pilot

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It's the Democratic party members of the Democratic party are democrats.

Please. Quit listening to Rush Limbaugh so much.

Both parties were better more than 40 years ago.

The Political spectrum of this country shifted right. There are moderates in the Democratic party (democrats who are a bit more fiscally conservative) almost none in the Republican party these days.

Sorry, but it is the Democrat Party. Big "D". They are far from being democratic.
 

blankslate

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ok keep on being a Republicon, because they've pulled such a con on the the American people that it's at least interesting on an academic level if not admirable at all.
 

blankslate

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I do not, repeat, NOT listen to Rush. I have better places to waste my time.

The positions that you take in this forum would not indicate that at all. You share his penchant for misnaming a political party as well.
 

a777pilot

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The positions that you take in this forum would not indicate that at all. You share his penchant for misnaming a political party as well.

I have held these opinions of mine much longer that that idiot has been on the radio, so if anything, he is copying me.

I really don't listen to him or like him. He is just another bag of wind entertainer with a microphone.
 

hal2kilo

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It's the Democratic party members of the Democratic party are democrats.

Please. Quit listening to Rush Limbaugh so much. Perhaps one should stoop to his level and start referring to the Republican party as Republic, Republicon, Republicant, or Republicvnt party? Language does matter as many people who are familiar with how propaganda (like Limbaugh :p) will tell you.

In my opinion it can be argued that both parties were a lot better more than 40 years ago.

The Political spectrum of this country shifted right. There are moderates in the Democratic party (democrats who are a bit more fiscally conservative) almost none in the Republican party these days.

When I respond to posters that use the Democrat party moniker then I use the RepubliCon party moniker.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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I have no party. I dislike groupthink which IMO tends to foster conformity above originality. Further, parties have become self important to the point where they value winning over what is right, or defining good as what they say it is.

I believe that the government derives its legitimate authority from the citizen, not the party. I believe that its proper role is that of a facilitator of liberty. We grant it power, we should not be subject to what it tells us our rights are except where the citizenry form a consensus as to where boundaries lie. I think leaders lead by serving, not by playing the master. Only those who are indifferent to power should wield it and then by the minimums use of it to fulfill its purpose. Those who crave power are unworthy. Political considerations are never top priority, not even close.


No party wants anyone who feels as I do.
 

TheVrolok

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I'm a registered Democrat because I more closely align with the ideology than I do with the Republican party. Honestly I'm more of an independent, but I'd prefer to be able to vote in Democratic primaries. I probably could have been a moderate Republican 40 years ago, but today's GOP disturbs me on a deep level.
 

lotus503

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I think both parties are full of corrupt whores and refuse to identify with either.
 

fskimospy

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To that end I cherish the original intent of our founding fathers, to secure us from government tyranny. Only using the Federal Government to enforce the Bill of Rights, solve disputes between States, and handle affairs with other nations.

If there's one thing I wish these threads would illuminate, it's the utter falsity that 'the founding fathers' believed in the government as you described it. What you believe the 'founding fathers' intended is factually false. There was a huge variation in what various founders believed in and certainly no agreed upon idea of using the government only for those aims.

Where do these fairy tales come from?
 

T_Yamamoto

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Stop bickering. This thread was meant to be just a place where you state your party and why.
 

hal2kilo

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If there's one thing I wish these threads would illuminate, it's the utter falsity that 'the founding fathers' believed in the government as you described it. What you believe the 'founding fathers' intended is factually false. There was a huge variation in what various founders believed in and certainly no agreed upon idea of using the government only for those aims.

Where do these fairy tales come from?

The Heritage Foundation?