What is your pattern unlock?

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clamum

Lifer
Feb 13, 2003
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I don't use biometric access. The government can compel you to open $item, as opposed to knowledge based security, which they can't.
I dunno, if they can compel me to put my thumb on the phone they can compel me to speak my PIN. I'd think, anyway.
 

lxskllr

No Lifer
Nov 30, 2004
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I dunno, if they can compel me to put my thumb on the phone they can compel me to speak my PIN. I'd think, anyway.
That violates the right to not self incriminate. It's a fairly esoteric distinction imo, but it is what it is. I also don't use voice commands on my phone. Just cause. My arms and fingers work, so I'll use them.
 

rh71

No Lifer
Aug 28, 2001
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That violates the right to not self incriminate. It's a fairly esoteric distinction imo, but it is what it is. I also don't use voice commands on my phone. Just cause. My arms and fingers work, so I'll use them.

Voice commands are for when you're driving and you forgot to load up Maps and typing "Gentlemen's Club" is too long and distracting to do it safely. It's come in handsy for me a few times.
 

clamum

Lifer
Feb 13, 2003
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That violates the right to not self incriminate. It's a fairly esoteric distinction imo, but it is what it is. I also don't use voice commands on my phone. Just cause. My arms and fingers work, so I'll use them.
Well I guess I should've been a bit more precise, I mean that if they could compel me to put my thumb on the phone then they could make me type in my PIN. I dunno about any of the legal stuff, and I'm not concerned about it anyway. If I'm a criminal in some case then the poop has hit the fan.
 

Amol S.

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Mar 14, 2015
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I don't use a phone pattern unlock. Phone pattern unlock is supseptable to locking the actuall phone owner for good if something goes wrong with the touch sensors on the phone display.
 

nakedfrog

No Lifer
Apr 3, 2001
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I don't use a phone pattern unlock. Phone pattern unlock is supseptable to locking the actuall phone owner for good if something goes wrong with the touch sensors on the phone display.
Well, the phone isn't necessarily going to be much use in that case anyway.
 

nexus5rocks

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Mar 12, 2014
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I don't use biometric access. The government can compel you to open $item, as opposed to knowledge based security, which they can't.
as someone has already stated, upon rebooting, the phone does not allow biometric so reboot it.
face ID requires you to be conscious so they can't just knock you out and stick it in front of your face.
 

cirrrocco

Golden Member
Sep 7, 2004
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Mine is a complex variation of a square. I also keep changing my pattern every december'ish
 

Red Squirrel

No Lifer
May 24, 2003
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I don't use a phone pattern unlock. Phone pattern unlock is supseptable to locking the actuall phone owner for good if something goes wrong with the touch sensors on the phone display.

Wouldn't that be the case for pin too? That said, I think pin is considered more secure, so there's that. The pattern would be more secure if it let you use the same dot twice. Don't know why they restrict it, as it reduces the possible patterns.
 

IronWing

No Lifer
Jul 20, 2001
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Tongue recognition is the way to go. Everybody's tongue bumps have to be different.
 
Dec 10, 2005
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If I want my work e-mails on my phone, I can't use pattern unlock. Plus PIN and fingerprint are more secure.
 

destrekor

Lifer
Nov 18, 2005
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It's a sufficiently complex swipe pattern. ;)

That violates the right to not self incriminate. It's a fairly esoteric distinction imo, but it is what it is. I also don't use voice commands on my phone. Just cause. My arms and fingers work, so I'll use them.
as someone has already stated, upon rebooting, the phone does not allow biometric so reboot it.
face ID requires you to be conscious so they can't just knock you out and stick it in front of your face.

That's something I love that's available on my Pixel 3 - it's a feature I have enabled called "Lockdown" which I can access by holding my power button and then tapping on "Lockdown" which then disables biometric unlock until unlocked with something you know; be it password, PIN, or pattern. Feel the least bit worried and it's a quick move away.
 

Platypus

Lifer
Apr 26, 2001
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I would not recommend using a pattern unlock.

The best option is a long, alphanumeric password with a good variety of character types.

If that is too complicated, a long pin, such as > 8 digits is the next best option.
 

Ajay

Lifer
Jan 8, 2001
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Silly iPhone 6s only allows a six digit numeric passcode (or fingerprint, but not and). On the plus side, ten missed guesses and it’s game over.
 

ElFenix

Elite Member
Super Moderator
Mar 20, 2000
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Would op like my social security number and the street I lived on during third grade as well?
 

Ajay

Lifer
Jan 8, 2001
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Would op like my social security number and the street I lived on during third grade as well?
I don’t know about the OP, but if you want to share your brokerage account (s) numbers with me, just PM :p
 

ElFenix

Elite Member
Super Moderator
Mar 20, 2000
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I don’t know about the OP, but if you want to share your brokerage account (s) numbers with me, just PM :p
Pfft, brokerage accounts are for suckers. I keep my gold bars in my sock drawer
 

ShookKnight

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Dec 12, 2019
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The Necronomicon symbol;
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Of course each time I use my phone, I summon a horror that rings terror in all living things near me that are driven to the depths of madness, despair and soul crushing fear.
 

sdifox

No Lifer
Sep 30, 2005
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The Necronomicon symbol;
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Of course each time I use my phone, I summon a horror that rings terror in all living things near me that are driven to the depths of madness, despair and soul crushing fear.
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