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Canai

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I'd think that you all would want at least a piece of cork or something to act as a bobber for your fishing line...

Flint, steel, knife, hatchet, fishing line and hooks (plus bobbers), waterproof poncho, plastic twine or high-tensile wire, and a 4x4 sheet of medium thickness leather for lashings etc.
 

herm0016

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in my Search and Rescue pack i carry: 100 feet of 7 strand paracord (can be as much as 700 feet if i need it, using the strands. strands also work as fishing line. emergency blanket, home built sil-nylon pentagon tipi shelter (fits about 3 people, weighs about a pound or a bit more), kinfe and multi-tool. LED light stick (red), head lamp, signal mirror, glass lens (for starting fires in daylight) matches/bic for night time or low sunlight use. 50 foot static rope w/ 2 locking, 2 bent gate aluminum carabiners, random 1inch tubuler webbing for rigging points or makeing a litter/harness, folding camp saw, first aid kit, ham radio and freq. chart for area, topo map and compass

to really survive, depending on the time of year, i would need a knife, a firestarting tool, a pot to cook/boil water, some paracoard to lash a shelter together, hopefully i would also have (in order of want): (instead of a pair of jeans and a cotton t-shirt) a polypro top and bottom and a pair of synthetic pants, snare wire, blanket/sleeping bag, tarp, homemade alchohol popcan stove....and then the rest of my pack that i normaly carry for a week. all total about 20 lbs with out food for backpacking, 30 is search and rescue mode (rope is heavy).
 

jemcam

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Damn, I forgot about 550 cord. I'd need 50 feet or so of that. You're right herm0016, that stuff is great!

I still wouldn't need anything else if we're going minimalist.
 

jemcam

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Originally posted by: Canai
I'd think that you all would want at least a piece of cork or something to act as a bobber for your fishing line...

Flint, steel, knife, hatchet, fishing line and hooks (plus bobbers), waterproof poncho, plastic twine or high-tensile wire, and a 4x4 sheet of medium thickness leather for lashings etc.

You haven't done much fishing have you? You don't need a cork or bobber, but even if you have to have one, a light stick works just fine.
 

Canai

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Originally posted by: herm0016
in my Search and Rescue pack i carry: 100 feet of 7 strand paracord (can be as much as 700 feet if i need it, using the strands. strands also work as fishing line. emergency blanket, home built sil-nylon pentagon tipi shelter (fits about 3 people, weighs about a pound or a bit more), kinfe and multi-tool. LED light stick (red), head lamp, signal mirror, glass lens (for starting fires in daylight) matches/bic for night time or low sunlight use. 50 foot static rope w/ 2 locking, 2 bent gate aluminum carabiners, random 1inch tubuler webbing for rigging points or makeing a litter/harness, folding camp saw, first aid kit, ham radio and freq. chart for area, topo map and compass

to really survive, depending on the time of year, i would need a knife, a firestarting tool, a pot to cook/boil water, some paracoard to lash a shelter together, hopefully i would also have (in order of want): (instead of a pair of jeans and a cotton t-shirt) a polypro top and bottom and a pair of synthetic pants, snare wire, blanket/sleeping bag, tarp, homemade alchohol popcan stove....and then the rest of my pack that i normaly carry for a week. all total about 20 lbs with out food for backpacking, 30 is search and rescue mode (rope is heavy).

On second thought, I'll just follow this guy :D
 

Canai

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Originally posted by: jemcam
Originally posted by: Canai
I'd think that you all would want at least a piece of cork or something to act as a bobber for your fishing line...

Flint, steel, knife, hatchet, fishing line and hooks (plus bobbers), waterproof poncho, plastic twine or high-tensile wire, and a 4x4 sheet of medium thickness leather for lashings etc.

You haven't done much fishing have you? You don't need a cork or bobber, but even if you have to have one, a light stick works just fine.

sitting on a bank, you're going to cast out into the river and the bait is going to go straight to the bottom unless you reel it in constantly (but you have no reel), and there's a very good chance it would get snagged on the bottom.

So I'd think some sort of easy to see floating thing would be a great addition.
 

jemcam

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Originally posted by: Canai
Originally posted by: jemcam
Originally posted by: Canai
I'd think that you all would want at least a piece of cork or something to act as a bobber for your fishing line...

Flint, steel, knife, hatchet, fishing line and hooks (plus bobbers), waterproof poncho, plastic twine or high-tensile wire, and a 4x4 sheet of medium thickness leather for lashings etc.

You haven't done much fishing have you? You don't need a cork or bobber, but even if you have to have one, a light stick works just fine.

sitting on a bank, you're going to cast out into the river and the bait is going to go straight to the bottom unless you reel it in constantly (but you have no reel), and there's a very good chance it would get snagged on the bottom.

So I'd think some sort of easy to see floating thing would be a great addition.

Ever heard of catfish? Lots of fish live on the bottom.

I've caught tons of fish with the bait laying on the bottom. Again, if you need something, damn near anything that floats works good. A quarter sized piece of 1/2 inch thick styrofoam or a dried stick works good if you absolutely have to have it since you're a noob.



 

jemcam

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Originally posted by: herm0016
in my Search and Rescue pack i carry: 100 feet of 7 strand paracord (can be as much as 700 feet if i need it, using the strands. strands also work as fishing line. emergency blanket, home built sil-nylon pentagon tipi shelter (fits about 3 people, weighs about a pound or a bit more), kinfe and multi-tool. LED light stick (red), head lamp, signal mirror, glass lens (for starting fires in daylight) matches/bic for night time or low sunlight use. 50 foot static rope w/ 2 locking, 2 bent gate aluminum carabiners, random 1inch tubuler webbing for rigging points or makeing a litter/harness, folding camp saw, first aid kit, ham radio and freq. chart for area, topo map and compass

to really survive, depending on the time of year, i would need a knife, a firestarting tool, a pot to cook/boil water, some paracoard to lash a shelter together, hopefully i would also have (in order of want): (instead of a pair of jeans and a cotton t-shirt) a polypro top and bottom and a pair of synthetic pants, snare wire, blanket/sleeping bag, tarp, homemade alchohol popcan stove....and then the rest of my pack that i normaly carry for a week. all total about 20 lbs with out food for backpacking, 30 is search and rescue mode (rope is heavy).


So much for minimalist. Why not just bring your RV?
 

Canai

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But wouldn't it be better to have bait on the bottom and bait floating in the water?

Asides from that, you're really going to risk your line and few fishing hooks having them sit on the bottom of an unknown section of river?
 

jemcam

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Originally posted by: Canai
But wouldn't it be better to have bait on the bottom and bait floating in the water?

Asides from that, you're really going to risk your line and few fishing hooks having them sit on the bottom of an unknown section of river?

I don't see it being such a big deal. If my hook gets snagged, I'll swim out and get it instead of losing it. Once you've done it for a while, getting hooks unsnagged is not a big deal even without getting wet. I grew up on a lake out in the country and spent many many hours fishing as a kid. I learned early on that I had to conserve my equipment because I didn't have the money to buy new gear and the tackle shop was so far away so I couldn't even ride my bike to it. It was a very special day that I even got a ride in to town to buy worms. It's not a big deal to fish for days with one hook.
 

Canai

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Originally posted by: jemcam
Originally posted by: Canai
But wouldn't it be better to have bait on the bottom and bait floating in the water?

Asides from that, you're really going to risk your line and few fishing hooks having them sit on the bottom of an unknown section of river?

I don't see it being such a big deal. If my hook gets snagged, I'll swim out and get it instead of losing it. Once you've done it for a while, getting hooks unsnagged is not a big deal even without getting wet. I grew up on a lake out in the country and spent many many hours fishing as a kid. I learned early on that I had to conserve my equipment because I didn't have the money to buy new gear and the tackle shop was so far away so I couldn't even ride my bike to it. It was a very special day that I even got a ride in to town to buy worms. It's not a big deal to fish for days with one hook.

Yeah I see your logic. Let me change my bobber to a small jig kit.
 

ZiKi

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damn this makes me want to go camping. back in the day when i was in boyscouts we made shelters out of branches and twigs and stuff, that was so fun. there were about 6 or 7 shelters that each group of 2 or 3 made. The designs were very different.
 

zoiks

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Several containers of water, matches, knife, rope, Catherine Zeta Jones and 75 condoms.
 

uberman

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Waterproof matches
A $250 Katydin water filter
A poncho
100 feet of paracord
100 feet of 25 lb test fish line and hooks
AR7 folding survival rifle
1 brick of 22 long rifle rounds
A waterproof sleeping bag
A Victornox Backpacker/Climber Swiss Army Knife
 

GasX

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Originally posted by: zoiks
Several containers of water, matches, knife, rope, Catherine Zeta Jones and 75 condoms.

she isn't clean?

packing out used condoms ftl...
 

herm0016

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Originally posted by: jemcam
Originally posted by: herm0016
in my Search and Rescue pack i carry: 100 feet of 7 strand paracord (can be as much as 700 feet if i need it, using the strands. strands also work as fishing line. emergency blanket, home built sil-nylon pentagon tipi shelter (fits about 3 people, weighs about a pound or a bit more), kinfe and multi-tool. LED light stick (red), head lamp, signal mirror, glass lens (for starting fires in daylight) matches/bic for night time or low sunlight use. 50 foot static rope w/ 2 locking, 2 bent gate aluminum carabiners, random 1inch tubuler webbing for rigging points or makeing a litter/harness, folding camp saw, first aid kit, ham radio and freq. chart for area, topo map and compass

to really survive, depending on the time of year, i would need a knife, a firestarting tool, a pot to cook/boil water, some paracoard to lash a shelter together, hopefully i would also have (in order of want): (instead of a pair of jeans and a cotton t-shirt) a polypro top and bottom and a pair of synthetic pants, snare wire, blanket/sleeping bag, tarp, homemade alchohol popcan stove....and then the rest of my pack that i normaly carry for a week. all total about 20 lbs with out food for backpacking, 30 is search and rescue mode (rope is heavy).


So much for minimalist. Why not just bring your RV?

because an rv weighs more than 20 lbs, my base pack weight is less than 20 without food or water. i did 12 days with food and 3L of water in my back at about 38 lbs total.

my minimum list is also there, i just typed a lot:

depending on the time of year, i would need a knife, a firestarting tool, a pot to cook/boil water, some paracoard to lash a shelter together
 

GasX

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Originally posted by: herm0016
because an rv weighs more than 20 lbs, my base pack weight is less than 20 without food or water. i did 12 days with food and 3L of water in my back at about 38 lbs total.
I did some desert camping in Big Bend National Park. It's a lot of fun starting a hike with 5-6 liters of water. Of course, it just gets easier and easier until you get to your water cache and restock...

 

herm0016

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i was hiking isle royal in michigan, on the ridge it was about 90 degrees, near the water it was in the 70s usually. lots of forest cover most days too. only one day did i run out and not come across a source.