What is with pedestrians in parking lots?

[KlokWyze]

Asians?

 

[DaTT]

And I'm arguing that if anyone (driver or pedestrian) doesn't pay attention because they feel everyone else should, they are idiots. Disagree?

nope. i agree 100%.

Walking into live lanes without looking is not paying attention, thus.....

 

[Red Squirrel]

People always leave common sense in their car when going into any large store, whether it's a Walmart, Grocery store etc. It gets worse once they get a cart.

 

[DaTT]

People always leave common sense in their car when going into any large store, whether it's a Walmart, Grocery store etc. It gets worse once they get a cart.

Fucking true!

 

[Bulk Beef]

nope. i agree 100%.

That's not the impression I'm getting from what you've posted so far.

 

[guyver01]

Walking into live lanes without looking is not paying attention, thus.....

if i'm walking thru a crosswalk in a parking lot, i'll look once. if the lane is clear, i go.... i'm not constantly looking, because i dont need to. i'm paying attention to what's in front of me... as you should be if you're in a car.

 

[guyver01]

That's not the impression I'm getting from what you've posted so far.

the LAW states i do not need to pay attention while walking in a crosswalk in a parking lot.

the LAW states the DRIVER needs to be aware.


that is what i'm posting. anyone who believes they can drive how they want... is driving illegally.

 

[DaTT]

if i'm walking thru a crosswalk in a parking lot, i'll look once. if the lane is clear, i go.... i'm not constantly looking, because i dont need to. i'm paying attention to what's in front of me... as you should be if you're in a car.

So now you do look?

Because here you say differently:

i think i would take this option. i'd be set for life... millions and millions in compensatory damage.

 

[Thegonagle]

and you think a negligent driver in a parking lot is gonna get off easier?

1.4 mil for being hit by an ambulance in the STREET.

a parking lot is gonna bring 10x that amount.

My insurance pays $100,000. Beyond that, I've got nothing but my debts. Where would the rest come from?

 

[DaTT]

the LAW states i do not need to pay attention while walking in a crosswalk in a parking lot.

the LAW states the DRIVER needs to be aware.


that is what i'm posting. anyone who believes they can drive how they want... is driving illegally.

When has any stated "they drive how they want"?

 

[guyver01]

Where would the rest come from?

everything you own.
your car. sold
your house. sold
your tv. sold

 

[guyver01]

Because here you say differently:

i fucking chose an option that was given... read the options you posted.

A) Walk blindly into the the crosswalk and be hit by a driver not paying attention, get injured and ruin your day....possibly longer


the law says i have every right to choose this option. this is what RIGHT OF WAY means.

 

[DaTT]

i fucking chose an option that was given... read the options you posted.

A) Walk blindly into the the crosswalk and be hit by a driver not paying attention, get injured and ruin your day....possibly longer


the law says i have every right to choose this option. this is what RIGHT OF WAY means.

You could have chosen the common sense and safe option, which is what you say you do anyways...So full of contradiction.

 

[guyver01]

You could have chosen the common sense and safe option, which is what you say you do anyways...So full of contradiction.

and you could follow the law.

so full of fail.

see you in canadia jail.

 

[DaTT]

and you could follow the law.

so full of fail.

see you in canadia jail.

When have I stated that I don't follow the law? Maybe you could learn to read, you will go further in life. I haven't implied that I drive without yielding to walkers.

 

[guyver01]

When have I stated that I don't follow the law?

then what's the point in starting this whole thread? to complain about people who follow the law?

this whole thread is fail then. your initial premise is fail.

 

[DaTT]

The point was to point out that people don't pay attention and put themselves in potential danger. When a light turns green, do stomp on the gas or look to make sure no one is running a red light. Same logic applies imo

 

[Thegonagle]

everything you own.
your car. sold
your house. sold
your tv. sold

My house is underwater. I owe more than it's worth right now.

My car is worth a few grand more than the loan.

As for the rest, I believe I would just file for bankruptcy.

My lifestyle would change for the poorer, but you still wouldn't get paid more than I'm insured for.

You can't choose who you get hit by.

I know someone who was underemployed (so no health insurance) when she was hit in a crosswalk by an uninsured driver with no assets. She got hurt pretty badly, including a brain injury. There's no money coming from anywhere except social services. She's not set for life, she's fucked.

 

[zCypher]

They are like zombies. I know they have the right of way when crossing the lane to the store in the hashed yellow paint area, but they don't even stop and fucking look. It's like all common sense is left behind in their car, "I'll just put you in the glove box till I get back".

I always look, I would rather not fight with 3000lbs of steel, it's a fight I will surely lose. All it takes is one asshole not paying attention to get a 7-10 split in the Wal-Mart parking lot.

Wake up people....

Yup, but they don't suddenly become zombies in the parking lot. They are still zombies while driving around. Just today I was driving and someone in the lane beside me crashed into the guy in front of him for no apparent reason. Twice I've seen this happen in the past year.

Sure people walking around in a parking lot without looking where they are going = stupid. They'll only hurt themselves though, and they're not too likely to die so I can only care so much about that.

 

[guyver01]

The point was to point out that people don't pay attention and put themselves in potential danger.

the title of the thread is .. What is with pedestrians in parking lots?


the answer is... pedestrians are following the law.

Right of Way in Crosswalks: (a) The driver of a vehicle shall stop and remain stopped to allow a pedestrian to cross the roadway within a crosswalk

any other argument is pointless... because you're advocating ONE SIDE not follow the law.

You should be arguing.. DRIVERS... PAY ATTENTION.

/thread.

 

[Zenmervolt]

i think i would take this option. i'd be set for life... millions and millions in compensatory damage.

Only if you're hit by a vehicle owned by a business and the driver was on an official errand. Or hit by Bill Gates.

Get hit by your average Joe making $35,000/year and you're not getting "millions." No way, no how. Even if you're garnishing part of his wages for the rest of his life, you won't be anywhere near "set." Getting a court judgment is not in any way, shape, or form the same as actually having the cash in hand.

Also, as far as the right-of-way analysis goes, it's not as cut-and-dried as you make it out to be. Just because you have right-of-way doesn't mean you don't have some duty to mitigate damages. For example, if you run blindly into the back end of a car that has stopped in the lane waiting for another car to leave its spot, it's not the car that's going to be liable. Similarly, if you run blindly and hit the side of a car, you're going to be shouldering at least some of the blame for the incident even if you have right of way.

ZV

 

[guyver01]

Also, as far as the right-of-way analysis goes, it's not as cut-and-dried as you make it out to be. Just because you have right-of-way doesn't mean you don't have some duty to mitigate damages. For example, if you run blindly into the back end of a car that has stopped in the lane waiting for another car to leave its spot, it's not the car that's going to be liable. Similarly, if you run blindly and hit the side of a car, you're going to be shouldering at least some of the blame for the incident even if you have right of way.

ZV

in both of those scenarios, i'd argue that the pedestrian is gonna end up with maybe a scratch... the car? a smudge. not as damaging as a car hitting a pedestrian.

 

[xanis]

People walk like they drive, without regard to anyone or anything around them.

Painfully true.

 

[Zenmervolt]

in both of those scenarios, i'd argue that the pedestrian is gonna end up with maybe a scratch... the car? a smudge. not as damaging as a car hitting a pedestrian.

Valid, I'm just pointing out that there do exist situations where having right of way does not absolve someone of fault.

ZV

 

[DaTT]

the title of the thread is .. What is with pedestrians in parking lots?


the answer is... pedestrians are following the law.

Right of Way in Crosswalks: (a) The driver of a vehicle shall stop and remain stopped to allow a pedestrian to cross the roadway within a crosswalk

any other argument is pointless... because you're advocating ONE SIDE not follow the law.

You should be arguing.. DRIVERS... PAY ATTENTION.

/thread.

Since when is asking pedestrians to look both ways before entering a crosswalk breaking a law?