What is this about Minneapolis "defunding" its PD?

[Starbuck1975]

Dictionary definitions are hawwd for Democrats, yo.

Only some, like @ch33zw1z

 

[ch33zw1z]

Only some, like @ch33zw1z

The projection is strong, so when's your dictionary being released?

 

[Svnla]

Looks like, based on your quotes, the numbers have been that high in the past. Since this year yielded much more financial and mental distress, and let's not forget RW agitators, it doesn't seem far out there. And, although it doesn't fit your strawman, the police force haven't been reformed yet.

In others words, you replied like an idiot would.

Yes, more insult and name calling and spin and spin. <yawning>. Typical. So sad and pathetic.

Anyone else would answer my question about who the victims of those violent crimes (majority blacks) would call for help? Uh huh.

 

[brycejones]

Well whatever their PD is doing now it isn’t working so well.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Yes, more insult and name calling and spin and spin. <yawning>. Typical. So sad and pathetic.

Anyone else would answer my question about who the victims of those violent crimes (majority blacks) would call for help? Uh huh.

Who do you think? Or do you just listen to the lies and mistruths that fit your narrative, like a good idiot.

 

[Svnla]

Looks like the current system isn't working.

So what is the solution? Cut the budget of the police even more as many are saying/suggesting?

 

[Svnla]

Who do you think? Or do you just listen to the lies and mistruths that fit your narrative, like a good idiot.

You are stupid, idiot...blah..blah..blah..see how I can behave exactly like you? But I am not. I am going to ignore you so go on with your "stupdid" self.

 

[ch33zw1z]

You are stupid, idiot...blah..blah..blah..see how I can behave exactly like you? But I am not. I am going to ignore you so go on with your "stupdid" self.

Sure, you go for champ, won't change the fact you're an idiot and believe whatever propaganda is on your news feed.

 

[ch33zw1z]

So what is the solution? Cut the budget of the police even more as many are saying?

Yep, and implement new training. As plenty have point out, the police are behaving exactly the way they're taught to. Couple that with the personally type typically brought into the force, and the recipe for "comply or die" is complete. I wouldn't expect an idiot like you to comprehend situations bigger than "lock her up" chants tho.

 

[Svnla]

From another thread and from a newbie. LOL.

life tip:

When a person resorts to insults, they lost the discussion. It is an admission that said person is not capable of putting together a reasonable statement in response.

. Word. It is applicable to ALL. Do as we say and not as we do, eh?

Must. Stop. Laughing. So. Hard.

 

[ch33zw1z]

From another thread and from a newbie. LOL
. Word.

Describing conservatives to a T, good job!

 

[K1052]

So what is the solution? Cut the budget of the police even more as many are saying/suggesting?

Departments and officers need to be accountable for their actions, I don't think many people pretend we have much of that now. Reform and retrain plus remove certain things from their area of enforcement. We use cops for a lot of things we should not and those cops use violence for a lot of things they should not. Require police to live in the places they serve and also avoid them forming little insular communities as often happens, subsidize this if necessary.

 

[Svnla]

Departments and officers need to be accountable for their actions, I don't think many people pretend we have much of that now. Reform and retrain plus remove certain things from their area of enforcement. We use cops for a lot of things we should not and those cops use violence for a lot of things they should not. Require police to live in the places they serve and also avoid them forming little insular communities as often happens, subsidize this if necessary.

Sound reasonable. What about cutting/"defunding" their budget as many are saying/suggesting? Good..Bad..Ugly?

Would your suggestions work to lower the murders, car jackings, robberies, other violent crimes in my post above with link from "propaganda" Washingon Post?

 

[K1052]

Sound reasonable. What about cutting their budget as many are saying/suggesting? Good..Bad..Ugly?

It depends what we are talking about and what the staffing requirements are for the area in question. Some places have too much and some too little. Then there is the question of if the department has the right officers doing the right things...like why are there four cops standing gabbing on a train platform instead of riding the system where things actually happen. There are also probably other things that can go first like MRAP maintenance for the departments that have stocked up on combat vehicles and the like.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Sound reasonable. What about cutting their budget as many are saying/suggesting? Good..Bad..Ugly?

This has been the reasonable answer repeated (on here and in the news)whenever an idiot like you asks the same questions, again, because your bias is obvious. No worries, I'm sure you'll be back to spread the FUD when you think others don't remember you were already told.

Yes, defunding the police should be part of reform. Make police responsible for their bad behavior, also part of reform. Body cams for all.

Policing doesn't work like that right now, they have to justify their existence which means stirring up shit is job security, and also almost completely immune from consequences

 

[SmCaudata]

Maybe they should have used "No citizen left behind". It would pay homage to the bill that was used to defund "underperforming" public schools.

 

[Vic]

I understand that the solution to preventing police shootings is to not send militarized police into situations that require a more nuanced response.

I also understand that when you permit the irrational fringe to drive the narrative through action and words, you lose control of it. We’ve already established that BLM is a leaderless movement. People calling to defund the police against the backdrop of rioting and looting fall into the “you are not helping” category.

Criticizing isn't helping either.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Criticizing isn't helping either.

In an honest discussion, police responding to brutality with brutality, rioting, and looting wouldn't be helping either, but you know how that goes.

 

[ondma]

Let see how things are going in the city, shall we?



Minneapolis violence surges after George Floyd's death as police officers leave the department in droves - The Washington Post

Who are those victims of violent crimes (majority are blacks) going to call? Ghost Busters? Social workers?

Hit "like" by mistake, obviously. One calls the police to report a crime, just like in any other city.

 

[ondma]

In an honest discussion, police responding to brutality with brutality, rioting, and looting wouldn't be helping either, but you know how that goes.

How are they suppose to respond to brutality, ask them nicely to stop?

 

[ch33zw1z]

How are they suppose to respond to brutality, ask them nicely to stop?

Maybe you misunderstood, and because of my wording. The protesting is over police brutality, and the police responded with brutality and rioting. Nothing says "were sorry and we will change" like beating more people into submission and property damage. And before we start saying the police only beat people who were violent, there's plenty of instances where that wasn't the case.

 

[Starbuck1975]

Criticizing isn't helping either.

Depends on who is being criticized and for what.

 

[ondma]

Maybe you misunderstood, and because of my wording. The protesting is over police brutality, and the police responded with brutality and rioting. Nothing says "were sorry and we will change" like beating more people into submission and property damage. And before we start saying the police only beat people who were violent, there's plenty of instances where that wasn't the case.

Yea, I think I mis-interpreted your post.

 

[woolfe9998]

Criticizing isn't helping either.

I'm not so sure. The point of criticizing the "defund the police" rhetoric in terms of its political impact (as opposed to the substance of the policing issue) is so that people learn their lesson for future elections. If people refuse to acknowledge the contribution it made to the much worse than expected electoral outcome, then they are in denial and will likely repeat the same mistakes by either creating their own foolish rhetoric or amplifying the foolish rhetoric of others.

 

[Svnla]

Hit "like" by mistake, obviously. One calls the police to report a crime, just like in any other city.

Say whhaaaaaattttt? Isn't OP in post 288 said at least one politician said it would be white privilege to expect the police to come if anyone broke into your house

"Then a Minneapolis city council member went on CNN and claimed that the notion that we should expect emergency services if someone breaks into our homes is an example of "white privilege.""

and your own post 282 stated politicians want to cut the police budget severely?

......"a significant portion of the City Council that did in fact push for severe cuts in the police force, despite rising violence"