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What is the 'Tualatin' Intel chip all about?

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TeABaG88

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Is this Tualatin chip going to be a P4 or P3 chip. I know that it will be 0.13 micron. Will this be faster than a P4 at 1.7 Ghz? In other words should i get a P4 (1.7 Ghz) now or wait a month and get the 'Tualatin' chip? How do these compare with the new AMD's? Thanks for any input...

Eric
 
The Tualatin is a .13um P3. And yes, believe it or not, the Tualatin is faster than an equally clocked PIV. The Tualatin still does not beat the AMD Thunderbird, but due to its .13um core it will be able to compete with it for awhile longer.
 


<< The Tualatin still does not beat the AMD Thunderbird >>



are you sure about that? didn't the .18 p3 beat the tbird?
 
Scouzer is right, Intel relies on the software designers to do the dirty work of optimizing their program code. Without optimized code, the P4 is left in the dirt.
 
Ok give me your opinion on what i should do (numbers 1,2,3 or 4)

1. Get a P4 1.7 Ghz now.
2. Wait until 'Tualatin' chip comes out and get it.
3. Get the fastest AMD Thunderbird chip avaiable.
4. Wait until the 'Palamino' chip comes out and get it.
 
Palomino is already out. It's called AthlonMP, and 1.0GHz and 1.2GHz parts are shipping now, with 1.4GHz parts in a couple weeks. I'll have one real soon 😀
 
Palamino. Much better upgradiblity since AMD is planning to use Socket A until the end of 2002...Intel likes to change their socket/slots whatever all the time.
 
Are the AthlonMP (SMP) processors the final retail version of the Palomino? I thought that they were going to call it an Athlon 4. Anyways, since the Palomino is said to work with the current AMD761 chipset I would go for it. When the Pal's get into the 1.8 to 2.0GHz range, I'll pop one of those bad boys into my 8K7A and have some fun!
 
End of the summer I believe. It'll probably be overpriced and slow like all of Intel's products...I have expirence.. I own a PIII 800E and Celeron 433 so I think I'm entitled to my opinion for those of you who want to flame me.
 
ok so the Northwood chip will be the new P4 and the Palomino is the new AMD chip which is already out? Is this correct? Also, what are the stats on the Palomino, if anyone has them?
Thanks for the info guys...
 
Scouzer,

I doubt the P4 will be slow considering it will be at 2-2.2Ghz on a .13 fab. I wouldn't really call it slow right now at 1.7Ghz. It's just that the Athlon gives you so much more bang for the buck, is running on upgradeable motherboards, and uses dirt cheap DDR RAM ($53 for 256MB). The Northwood will probably still be overpriced for what it can do though. The Tualatin is a nice suprise but will also be overpriced.

I'm hoping the nForce chipsets will be worth the hype. If not, I guess I can always go SiS or SMP. I wonder how much faster the .13 Athlon 4's with SOI will be...and how much cooler. Unfortunately it's lookin' like it will take AMD the rest of the year to get to .13.

 
Are the Northwood chips going to be cheaper than the original P4's due to the fact that there are .13 and they can produce more chips?
 
Oh yeah. Did I forget to mention that AMD chips--discounting the Celeron, which was really a crippled P3-- are probably the most overclockable chips in the history of CPU's. It's also nice that AMD makes overclocking easy as pie while Intel chooses to multiplier lock their silicon.

 
TeABaG88,

LOL! That's a good one. You don't really believe Intel will not make you pay for the privilege of using their most current CPU do you? They never have in the past.

 
The Northwood will be a P4 that runs on SDR-SDRAM such as PC133. The only thing I see that the P4 has in advantage over the Thunderbird is its extremely high memory bandwidth. When you attach a P4 with SDR-SDRAM, they'll be taking this advantage away. The nForce will show Intel just how powerful SDRAM can be, since it uses dual channel DDR-SDRAM. The P4 uses dual channel RDRAM, giving it something like 3.8GB/s of memory bandwidth. The nForce uses dual channel DDR-SDRAM, giving it something like 4.2GB/s of memory bandwidth. Now AMD needs to build a processor that can take advantage of the extra bandwidth. The Palomino has Hardware Prefetch which should boost its memory bandwidth considerably.

And BTW, christoph83, no AMD does not do that. AMD cannot afford to loose customers merely due to price gouging.
 
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