What is the target market for Clarkdale ?

[NoobyDoo]

Forgive my noobishness. Who exactly is Intel targeting with Clarkdale ? Until now a user could buy a CPU and then decide whether he prefers a mobo with or without integrated graphics. But with Clarkdale, he would be forced to "pay" ( in terms of both $ and TDP ) for the included GPU. Is there ever going to be a GPUless 32nm processor from Intel ?

 

[cbn]

Who exactly is Intel targeting with Clarkdale ?

Gamers are one group.

But with Clarkdale, he would be forced to "pay" ( in terms of both $ and TDP ) for the included GPU. Is there ever going to be a GPUless 32nm processor from Intel ?

I think the IGP can be run disconnected when a discrete GPU is being used.

 

[n7]

Gamers.

Browser [flash] gamers? :hmm:

 

[cbn]

Who exactly is Intel targeting with Clarkdale ?

It is supposed to be a low cost platform but I wonder how much the specialized mobo it needs (to use the IGP) is going to cost?

At the moment regular P55 mainboards are just so cheap.

 

[cbn]

Browser [flash] gamers? :hmm:

That is true. The IGP won't do much for 3D.

 

[Idontcare]

Simple - businesses.

Its the office upgrade that makes sense. 32nm, low power, two cores for "good enough" desktop performance. Built-in IGP, who needs to play L4D2 in the office?

Intel is looking to ride the wave of corporate upgrade cycle in 2010 as we climb out of the recession.

 

[IntelUser2000]

It is supposed to be a low cost platform but I wonder how much the specialized mobo it needs (to use the IGP) is going to cost?

At the moment regular P55 mainboards are just so cheap.

It'll be cheaper in average because the manufacturers won't put extra circuitry which in reality does nothing. In theory they should be same.

 

[21stHermit]

What is the target market for Clarkdale ?

Historically, more than half of all PC's sold have had IGP, but on the NB. That NB also had the memory controller. Now with Clarkdale both the IGP and the MC are moved onto the CPU package. The remaining H55 chipset is much simpler hence cheaper which will result in a lower cost MB, relative to P55.

Therefore the answer is: More the half the PC market!!!

I would assume that you've never owned a PC with IGP and have always purchased discrete graphics.

 

[Kantastic]

Gamers. (Half serious)



I think the IGP can be run disconnected when a discrete GPU is being used.

But then you'd still be paying for it.

 

[ilkhan]

As IDC said, business for one, mainstream users for another.
Its the low cost platform targeted at the same buyers who are purchasing wolfdale chips right now.

 

[21stHermit]

But then you'd still be paying for it.

So what, Clarkdale is cheap, as little as $90 and faster than some of the early Quads.

 

[cbn]

So what, Clarkdale is cheap, as little as $90 and faster than some of the early Quads.

With some programs (like games) it can be faster than a quad. We have seen benchmarks of this already.

But for other more serious tasks truly requiring four cores I don't think this will hold true.

 

[21stHermit]

But for other more serious tasks truly requiring four cores I am doubtful.

Easy, get a quad.

The only? well threaded apps that can use a quad are video encoders, I don't do that. But given my power constraints (sig) this is a dream processor, I plan to undervolt mine if I can find a suitable MB.

Also, recently read that the IGP can do video transcoding, think MJPEG to YouTube, with a future firmware update. Bit too vaporware to get excited about yet.

 

[cbn]

The only? well threaded apps that can use a quad are video encoders, I don't do that. But given my power constraints (sig) this is a dream processor, I plan to undervolt mine if I can find a suitable MB.

Also, recently read that the IGP can do video transcoding, think MJPEG to YouTube, with a future firmware update. Bit too vaporware to get excited about yet.

Yep, this little Core i3 sounds pretty versatile huh?

Speaking of undervolting what do you need for that? How would you test for stability and data corruption?

 

[21stHermit]

Speaking of undervolting what do you need for that? How would you test for stability and data corruption?

No different than OCing, you run a stress test. If it passes, you're gold, if not, up the voltage. It's just that dropping the voltage is a bit rarer to find on MB's.

Undervolting and overclocking simply make use of manufacturing tolerances. In order to assure that 100% of the shipped CPU's meet the stated specs, their has to be a margin. So by UV or OC one simply spends the time to find the margin, not possible in high volume manufacturing. Clearly a crap shoot, but for most forum menbers here, what they live for.

One advantage of UV, never have to worry about heat.

 

[Idontcare]

With some programs (like games) it can be faster than a quad. We have seen benchmarks of this already.

But for other more serious tasks truly requiring four cores I don't think this will hold true.

http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/column/kaigai/20091127_331818.html


Quad market is rather small at this time and has not been growing all that rapidly. Obviously the dual-core clarkdale chip is targeted at the existing dual-core marketspace which is ~75% of the client market. For the <10% of the client market that wants quad performance they will have gulftown.

 

[exar333]

Forgive my noobishness. Who exactly is Intel targeting with Clarkdale ? Until now a user could buy a CPU and then decide whether he prefers a mobo with or without integrated graphics. But with Clarkdale, he would be forced to "pay" ( in terms of both $ and TDP ) for the included GPU. Is there ever going to be a GPUless 32nm processor from Intel ?

There is rumored to be a 12MB 32nm quad coming too (socket 1366 IIRC). Aigo has posted a few "juicy tidbits" about this in some other threads. Nothing official yet, though, that I know of.

 

[dmens]

I'll be building a HTPC around a clarksdale in a couple months.

windows 7 has native support for TV tuners, clarksdale's IGP has full HDMI support incudling audio bitstreaming, and it can handle blu-ray. clarksdale is an ideal HTPC solution imo.