What is the secret?

[egale]

Last night, I tried to remove a P4 3.0c processor from a dead motherboard. This had the retail HSF attached. I really struggled trying to get the thing loose but wound up destroying the processor.

There has to be an easy way to remove it without damaging it but I guess I was too dumb to to figure it out.

So, what should I have done?

 

[THUGSROOK]

never use the retail HSF TIM.

i believe you have a good reason for an RMA.

 

[adams828]

i thought intel produced relatively good hsfs? (for normal use, not OCing)

 

[digits]

Usually if the CPU is stuck to the HSF you would just warm up the heatsink (hairdrier on low setting)and gently twist the CPU free. Provided you got the HSF off the mobo and the CPU came with it.

How bad is the CPU did you crack the PCB or just yank the heat spreader off? or even bend the crap out off the pins?

 

[VIAN]

The retail heatsink comes with a thermal pad, when this thing gets hot it sort of melts and becomes part of the cpu.

 

[Camofrog]

how in the hell are you going to yank out a cpu stuck to the heatsink if it has alittle lock bar that you have to flip that cant be flipped with out the heatsink in the way????
unless to just break everything, ( pins, etc. )

 

[AIWGuru]

That's Intel's D!ck you're feeling in your rear right now.
I felt that once. I had a 1.6a and when it came to pull upgrade, I tried to remove the heatsink but the TIM was like GLUE! It ripped the CPU right out of the socket even with the lock arm down and broke some pins in the process. I RMAed it to Intel and they took it. Then the replacement got "lost" by UPS and intel would not send anohter. that's the stupidest design I've ever seen and Intel's RMA sucks moist butt hole.
<----never buying Intel again.

 

[AIWGuru]

BTW: the motherboard was ruined too as piece of pin were stuck in the socket and I could not insert the new CPU.

 

[digits]

wierd, I've yanked a couple out of the socket and never damaged any. Then I just twist off cpu, REMOVE crap thermal pad, AS3 it and good to go. Guess im lucky

 

[AIWGuru]

Originally posted by: digits
wierd, I've yanked a couple out of the socket and never damaged any. Then I just twist off cpu, REMOVE crap thermal pad, AS3 it and good to go. Guess im lucky

I guess so. Just to get this straight: you ripped the CPU out of the socket, then twisted it off? Yeah, I'd say you were pretty lucky. I guess the key is in keeping the pins straight or maybe pulling on the angle that the pins are being pinched against or something. What a crappy design though. Leave it to Intel to make the ZIF socked the TRF (tons of removal force) socket.
we todd it

 

[Sid59]

i woulda ran the the cpu with the fan NOT connected to the mobo and let it heat up a bit and try.

 

[AIWGuru]

Originally posted by: Sid59
i woulda ran the the cpu with the fan NOT connected to the mobo and let it heat up a bit and try.

Maybe it would be more correct to say that now you know of this poor design that is what you would do.
Assuming that it doesn't have such a retarted problem, you wouldn't know to do that as most users such as myself (at the time) don't.

 

[zephyrprime]

BTW: the motherboard was ruined too as piece of pin were stuck in the socket and I could not insert the new CPU.

You could maybe get that out.

 

[AIWGuru]

Originally posted by: zephyrprime

BTW: the motherboard was ruined too as piece of pin were stuck in the socket and I could not insert the new CPU.

You could maybe get that out.

It was safer for me to RMA it to ASUS.

 

[Wolfsraider]

i always use a screwdriver to remove them

so far about 20 to 30

only 1 was stubborn and it was the first one

they are really quite easy to remove if you are gentle with the screwdriver

mike

 

[pspada]

The first time I tried to pull a 1.6 out, it came out with the CPU still attached and tore the socket up. bent a buncha pins on the CPU which took me forever to get then straight again.

 

[VIAN]

I never allow myself the sin of using a stock heatsink. Ever.

 

[myocardia]

Originally posted by: VIAN
I never allow myself the sin of using a stock heatsink. Ever.

And since you don't overclock, that's saying something, huh?

 

[Jeff7181]

Originally posted by: AIWGuru

Originally posted by: Sid59
i woulda ran the the cpu with the fan NOT connected to the mobo and let it heat up a bit and try.

Maybe it would be more correct to say that now you know of this poor design that is what you would do.
Assuming that it doesn't have such a retarted problem, you wouldn't know to do that as most users such as myself (at the time) don't.

Haha... how ironic... you spelled retarded wrong

 

[VIAN]

Less complications when you buy your own heatsink. I like my hardware customized to be the best, but I don't believe in overclocking. I like to get em big and place a slow fan on them, instead of small and crappy fan and have my cpu run at higher than 50.

 

[Jeff7181]

If you're not going to overclock you may as well use the retail stuff to keep your warranty in tact and forget about the temperature as long as you installed the heatsink correctly.

 

[pspada]

Yea, really, what jeff ^ said. When I sell a retail chip, either AMD or Intel, it gets the retail heatsink, which includes the retail warranty. I'd be stupid to do otherwise, considering the number I sell. That said, you can bet your a$$ that I don't have the retail hsf on my own cpu.

 

[Acanthus]

i use intels retail heatsink, i just pull off the thermal pad and apply AS3.

 

[Camofrog]

i swapped my stock heatsink for a Thermaltech Spark 7+ and and when i pulled the stock heatsink off ( after !@#$%^&* with the clips ) it came right off no prob, of course tho when i put it on i used a little arctic silver3, instead of the stock pad or what ever they had on there, i put alittle more paste on to fill in what came off the heatsink and slapped my new one on, no problem. I would never use the retail heatsink pad.