What is the quietest cooling solution for 478?

[t73]

I'm running P4 2.6c with the original heatsink and it is load and hot...
Looking for the quitest cooling that will enable me to OC, I'd thought about the Big Typhoon, but I'm not sure if it will fit my Antec case or if there's a quieter HS.

What I'm looking for:
1. Silence
2. Good cooling to allow OC
3. Compatibility with 939 (AM2?)- for my next x2 build
4. and the least - Size

If there is more info needed, let me know...

Thanks
t73

 

[Snakexor]

zalman?

 

[Operandi]

Thermalright XP-90 with Panaflo L1BX, or Thermalright SI-120 with Delta triple blade low speed. All of which are compatible with 939 and although nothing has known for sure should be good to go with AM2 also.

Welcome to the forums btw.

 

[RallyMaster]

zalman CNPS9500 would be your best bet for compatibility i thinks...but Thermalrights are very formidable sinks.

 

[zagood]

Originally posted by: RallyMaster
zalman CNPS9500 would be your best bet for compatibility i thinks...but Thermalrights are very formidable sinks.

Pretty much all heatsinks that say they're compatible with sock 478 are really easy to put on. Just two screws and go.

I love my Zalman 9500, had a Zalman 7000AlCu before and didn't quite do the trick. XP-90 is a great one for the size factor also, and much cheaper. You don't need the copper version of that one, aluminum is fine.

I know what you mean about having room. Sock 478 has the problem with large heatsinks because of the location in regards to the power supply. The 7000 had about 2mm of space between it and the PSU, but the 9500 has plenty of room.

-z

 

[t73]

Doing some reviews reading (real good sticky!) focusing on noise level and performance, I'd found that the BT comes w/yate-loon which make it silent and it can run on 800rpm having good cooling still. Zalman on the other hand has a great cooling ability but higher db's. I also find it harder to mode its stock fan.
Good alternative to BT, according to reviews, are the xp/si-120 and the Ninja, but how do they differ running the same fan?
Which of those will be compatible with my Abit Ic7-max3 w/out its Otes and an Antec case?

 

[Brock123]

Artic Cooling makes some some super quite p4 heat sinks. 1.0 sone

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16835185114

only a 30 spot too

 

[halw]

Originally posted by: Brock123
Artic Cooling makes some some super quite p4 heat sinks. 1.0 sone

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16835185114

only a 30 spot too

Am RMAing this cooler. The quality doesn't seem to be there vs. its' cousin the AC 64.

Recommend using XP-90 or Zalman.

 

[LOUISSSSS]

the scythe ninja makes no noise when cooling

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: LOUISSSSS
the scythe ninja makes no noise when cooling

All depends on the fan you use. I doubt the Ninja could cool his CPU without one.

 

[Ping to the Pong]

Originally posted by: Zap
I'm currently using a Ninja w/o fan. If I'm reading Speedfan correctly, my CPU is running 31ºC right now. I'm just browsing the forums, meaning CPU is pretty much idle. I have an x2 3800+ at 2.5GHz overclock, no Cool and Quiet. I think load temps goes into the 50's with some high peaks.

This reply was from another member replying to a current post about the Ninja and fan. For a 2.6c, i think you should definitely be able to run the Ninja passively.

 

[Operandi]

Originally posted by: Ping to the Pong

Originally posted by: Zap
I'm currently using a Ninja w/o fan. If I'm reading Speedfan correctly, my CPU is running 31ºC right now. I'm just browsing the forums, meaning CPU is pretty much idle. I have an x2 3800+ at 2.5GHz overclock, no Cool and Quiet. I think load temps goes into the 50's with some high peaks.

This reply was from another member replying to a current post about the Ninja and fan. For a 2.6c, i think you should definitely be able to run the Ninja passively.

Passive CPU cooling is requires a lot of careful planning when you are dealing with anything but low power CPUs, a 2.6GHZ doesn?t qualify as low power. Having said I'm sure you could do it it's probably more trouble then it's worth.

 

[t73]

Hoping I could run fanless since the Ninja will be close to my 2*80mm exhaust rear fan. Above it the PSU fans also exhausts.
In any case I will add a fan on its right, turning in on / controlling it via SpeedFan.

I can only order the Ninja plus, which is the same HS but with a 120mm silent fan included.
The fan spec is 1200rpm , 46.5cfm , 23.5db.
How this fan compared to the Nexus 120 fan?
Has someone tried it on 800rpm and can tell about the fan noise.

 

[Howard]

brain fart

 

[NotquiteanooB]

Water cooling will do the job nicely, and be much quieter !!

 

[t73]

Originally posted by: Howard
brain fart

This is not nice.

I decided to go for the Ninja and I just want to know if replacing its stock fan to Naxus will give me some silent advantage.

 

[Shadowknight]

Yeah, the fan isn't considered that great on SPCR.

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: t73

Originally posted by: Howard
brain fart

This is not nice.

I decided to go for the Ninja and I just want to know if replacing its stock fan to Naxus will give me some silent advantage.

Not nice?

 

[BonzaiDuck]

Much good advice here, but I think you were settled on air-cooling so the water-cooling advice is probably unnecessary.

Some choices may depend on the case you are using. For instance, in some midtower cases with 120mm exhaust port and a PSU that has a 120mm fan facing downward perpendicular to the motherboard, the Scythe Ninja might be a really nice fit.

The Ninja only very slightly outperforms the TR SI-120 when the fan speed is above 2,500; at speeds around 950 rpm the SI-120 slightly outperforms the Ninja.

I've also discovered that the TR XP-90C (all copper) outperforms the SI-120 with a thermal resistance close to 0.11 C/W, but to achieve that low value, the 92mm fan must be spinning at rpm between 3,000 and 4,000 -- much too noisy.

Even so, I have a 478-pin P4 3.06 Ghz (533FSB) system with the regular TR XP-90 deployed with a Panaflo 92mm fan -- the higher-speed version of some three Panaflo models. Even with the side-panel blowhole, there is minimal air-turbulence noise. Cooling is about as good as it will get in that system.

But if you are planning to upgrade to a "hotter" CPU as you say, you would probably want something more "universal." As long as the CPU socket on the motherboard of the build you plan to make in the future is approximately oriented in the same way to the exhaust and power-supply holes, the Scythe Ninja would be "recycle-able" -- useable with the new mobo and the same case. Then again -- so would the SI-120.

 

[t73]

The Ninja can be run fanless and its shape looks to me more comfortable then the SI-120, this is why I prefer the Ninja. I n addition you get it with a fan at the same cost.
My case is the Antec SX1040BII with an Antec True380 PSU.

Regarding water cooling, I just can't afford it.


Howard
I didn't understand you, thought you said something offensive, my apologies.

 

[Operandi]

Originally posted by: t73
The Ninja can be run fanless and its shape looks to me more comfortable then the SI-120, this is why I prefer the Ninja. I n addition you get it with a fan at the same cost.
My case is the Antec SX1040BII with an Antec True380 PSU.

Regarding water cooling, I just can't afford it.


Howard
I didn't understand you, thought you said something offensive, my apologies.

The Ninja can be run passive but you can't just throw it into any case and expect it to work. With your case and CPU I don't think the results would be very good.

Once you remove passive operation out of the equation the Ninja holds no advantages over the XP/SI 90/120. I think you're best option is either the XP/SI-90 or SI-120.

 

[Zap]

Originally posted by: BonzaiDuck
Some choices may depend on the case you are using. For instance, in some midtower cases with 120mm exhaust port and a PSU that has a 120mm fan facing downward perpendicular to the motherboard, the Scythe Ninja might be a really nice fit.

That's the exact setup I have, 120mm PSU fan and 120mm Yate Loon (at full speed right now, still quiet) exhaust fan, no fan on the Ninja.

Originally posted by: Operandi
Once you remove passive operation out of the equation the Ninja holds no advantages over the XP/SI 90/120.

That's probably true, however if you are going for passive operation then the Ninja is probably the best choice.

There is really no one-size-fits-all HSF. Desireable traits are good forced cooling, good passive cooling, not too bulky, not too heavy, easy to install, inexpensive, universal. Can anyone come up with a heatsink that fits all those traits?

The OP will have to decide whether his case layout may allow him passive cooling, and then go from there.

 

[Operandi]

Originally posted by: Zap

Originally posted by: BonzaiDuck
Some choices may depend on the case you are using. For instance, in some midtower cases with 120mm exhaust port and a PSU that has a 120mm fan facing downward perpendicular to the motherboard, the Scythe Ninja might be a really nice fit.

That's the exact setup I have, 120mm PSU fan and 120mm Yate Loon (at full speed right now, still quiet) exhaust fan, no fan on the Ninja.

Originally posted by: Operandi
Once you remove passive operation out of the equation the Ninja holds no advantages over the XP/SI 90/120.

That's probably true, however if you are going for passive operation then the Ninja is probably the best choice.

There is really no one-size-fits-all HSF. Desireable traits are good forced cooling, good passive cooling, not too bulky, not too heavy, easy to install, inexpensive, universal. Can anyone come up with a heatsink that fits all those traits?

The OP will have to decide whether his case layout may allow him passive cooling, and then go from there.

The whole point of passive is cooling is for the reduction in noise. I understand that and have been building very, very quiet systems for about a year and half now. I try to use passive cooling just about everywhere I can when I build, the exceptions being the CPU, PSU, and GPU if gaming is going to be involved.

t73's case relies on 2x 80mm fans for an exhaust. In a passive CPU cooling situation those exhaust fans will also have the duty of providing air flow for the CPU HS/F, that's going to be a terrible configuration. Since the goal is (very?) low noise you'll be using low speed 80mm fans which won't providing much air flow, most likely not enough to cool 2.6GHZ P4. The obvious solution is to of course use more power exhaust fans but then you just defeated the purpose of the passive heatsink you choose in the first place.

 

[t73]

Originally posted by: Zap
There is really no one-size-fits-all HSF. Desireable traits are good forced cooling, good passive cooling, not too bulky, not too heavy, easy to install, inexpensive, universal. Can anyone come up with a heatsink that fits all those traits?

Yes, this is whyI like the Ninja which also allows me easier reach to the other MB components.

Originally posted by: Operandi
t73's case relies on 2x 80mm fans for an exhaust. In a passive CPU cooling situation those exhaust fans will also have the duty of providing air flow for the CPU HS/F, that's going to be a terrible configuration. Since the goal is (very?) low noise you'll be using low speed 80mm fans which won't providing much air flow, most likely not enough to cool 2.6GHZ P4. The obvious solution is to of course use more power exhaust fans but then you just defeated the purpose of the passive heatsink you choose in the first place.

Indeed going to change my 2x80 fan to the Arctic Cooling Arctic Fan 3, but also the PSU exhausting just above the HSF, and since I not using the Abit OTES there?s a 4cm /1.5" in diameter hole on the side of the upper rear fan.
On the case front there?s an option to add two more 80 fans, it's not occupied but is an opening for free air.

SPCR revives and others I'm getting the impression Ninja is head to head w/TT BT which looks to me as a better 2nd choice against the SI/XP-120.

BTW my CPU is 2.6 but not prescott.

 

[Zap]

Originally posted by: t73
Indeed going to change my 2x80 fan to the Arctic Cooling Arctic Fan 3,

I got the Arctic Cooling 3TC 80mm fan with temperature control for my wife's computer (the top blowhole in her Lian Li PC-7BW Plus). It is easily the noisiest part of her computer after temperatures increase enough to cause it to spin up.