What is the max length of a subwoofer cable?

ericboo

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I need to run an RG6 cable up into the attic and then drop it down in the wall as there only one spot in my room for the sub. It will probably be 50ft.

Is there any problem with this?
 

ericboo

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Why not? Plenty of people use that or RG59. Save some bucks and this is no high end home theater.
 

Cattlegod

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it won't matter how long your cable is. the only thing that will happen is a reduction in overall power output of the amplifier to the sub due to the increased resistance.

you can figure out exactly how much by getting the resistivity per foot numbers for the cable. at 50 ft, i wouldn't expect any problem at all.
 

EatSpam

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Powered sub?

If so, I've done that....RG6 with Coax to RCA converters. I had no problems at all with 25 feet. 50ft might be ok, too. Just hook it up and test before you run the wires permanently.
 

Midlander

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At 50 ft, the resistance is going to get noticeable. YOyoYOhowsDAjello can answer the particulars on this for you. You might PM him.
 

skyking

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I've got a run like that at the office training room, probably 90 feet of RG-6 with the sub signal. It works just like it did on a 15 foot patch cable.
I soldered on my own RCA connectors.
 

Muadib

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Originally posted by: Midlander
At 50 ft, the resistance is going to get noticeable. YOyoYOhowsDAjello can answer the particulars on this for you. You might PM him.

I now have the image from your sig burned into my brain, thanks.
 

CraigRT

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seeing as you can buy 10m cables right over the counter (for the same application) I assume 50ft of RG6 is OK.
 

PurdueRy

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Originally posted by: Midlander
At 50 ft, the resistance is going to get noticeable. YOyoYOhowsDAjello can answer the particulars on this for you. You might PM him.

ok instead of some people just pulling you know what out of their a$$...

No its not going to be noticeable even at 50 ft. From the following link you will see that resistance of the inner conductor of standard RG6 cabling has a resistance of 6.4ohm/1000ft. This amounts to .32 ohms of added resistance due to the cable....yes...so significant.

http://www.solidsignal.com/prod_display...ain_cat=2030405&CAT=&PROD=1829AC10UBLK

OP do not worry, it will work fine
 

Howard

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Originally posted by: PurdueRy
Originally posted by: Midlander
At 50 ft, the resistance is going to get noticeable. YOyoYOhowsDAjello can answer the particulars on this for you. You might PM him.

ok instead of some people just pulling you know what out of their a$$...

No its not going to be noticeable even at 50 ft. From the following link you will see that resistance of the inner conductor of standard RG6 cabling has a resistance of 6.4ohm/1000ft. This amounts to .32 ohms of added resistance due to the cable....yes...so significant.

http://www.solidsignal.com/prod_display...ain_cat=2030405&CAT=&PROD=1829AC10UBLK

OP do not worry, it will work fine
Don't forget about, um, interference, and stuff. You need Monster cables to prevent it.
 

PurdueRy

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Originally posted by: Howard
Originally posted by: PurdueRy
Originally posted by: Midlander
At 50 ft, the resistance is going to get noticeable. YOyoYOhowsDAjello can answer the particulars on this for you. You might PM him.

ok instead of some people just pulling you know what out of their a$$...

No its not going to be noticeable even at 50 ft. From the following link you will see that resistance of the inner conductor of standard RG6 cabling has a resistance of 6.4ohm/1000ft. This amounts to .32 ohms of added resistance due to the cable....yes...so significant.

http://www.solidsignal.com/prod_display...ain_cat=2030405&CAT=&PROD=1829AC10UBLK

OP do not worry, it will work fine
Don't forget about, um, interference, and stuff. You need Monster cables to prevent it.

oh of couse....because a couple layers of shielding doesn't work by itself...you need gold plated shielding....Let me show you a graph before and after monster cables were used...

:p
 

PurdueRy

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Oh and if you notice in that link they provide attentuation per 100 ft. Notice they start listing at 5 MHz with that being .5 dB. Our ears can hear theoretically to 20KHz so you can easily see the attenuation to a signal would be VERY small
 

dxkj

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Originally posted by: PurdueRy
Originally posted by: Howard
Originally posted by: PurdueRy
Originally posted by: Midlander
At 50 ft, the resistance is going to get noticeable. YOyoYOhowsDAjello can answer the particulars on this for you. You might PM him.

ok instead of some people just pulling you know what out of their a$$...

No its not going to be noticeable even at 50 ft. From the following link you will see that resistance of the inner conductor of standard RG6 cabling has a resistance of 6.4ohm/1000ft. This amounts to .32 ohms of added resistance due to the cable....yes...so significant.

http://www.solidsignal.com/prod_display...ain_cat=2030405&CAT=&PROD=1829AC10UBLK

OP do not worry, it will work fine
Don't forget about, um, interference, and stuff. You need Monster cables to prevent it.

oh of couse....because a couple layers of shielding doesn't work by itself...you need gold plated shielding....Let me show you a graph before and after monster cables were used...

:p

The MONSTER difference!

BEFORE monster cables



AFTER monster cables
 

Thegonagle

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Originally posted by: dxkj
Originally posted by: PurdueRy
Originally posted by: Howard
Originally posted by: PurdueRy
Originally posted by: Midlander
At 50 ft, the resistance is going to get noticeable. YOyoYOhowsDAjello can answer the particulars on this for you. You might PM him.

ok instead of some people just pulling you know what out of their a$$...

No its not going to be noticeable even at 50 ft. From the following link you will see that resistance of the inner conductor of standard RG6 cabling has a resistance of 6.4ohm/1000ft. This amounts to .32 ohms of added resistance due to the cable....yes...so significant.

http://www.solidsignal.com/prod_display...ain_cat=2030405&CAT=&PROD=1829AC10UBLK

OP do not worry, it will work fine
Don't forget about, um, interference, and stuff. You need Monster cables to prevent it.

oh of couse....because a couple layers of shielding doesn't work by itself...you need gold plated shielding....Let me show you a graph before and after monster cables were used...

:p

The MONSTER difference!

BEFORE monster cables



AFTER monster cables

Shens! It's not the same wallet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111one
 

Bolvangar

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50 foot is fine. If you have the proper tools, just put an RCA right onto the RG6, dont use a coax to rca converter.
 

jonessoda

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As a lifer, I doubt Howard is a plant. But maybe he's always worked for Monster Cable.
 

dxkj

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Originally posted by: Thegonagle
Originally posted by: dxkj
Originally posted by: PurdueRy
Originally posted by: Howard
Originally posted by: PurdueRy
Originally posted by: Midlander
At 50 ft, the resistance is going to get noticeable. YOyoYOhowsDAjello can answer the particulars on this for you. You might PM him.

ok instead of some people just pulling you know what out of their a$$...

No its not going to be noticeable even at 50 ft. From the following link you will see that resistance of the inner conductor of standard RG6 cabling has a resistance of 6.4ohm/1000ft. This amounts to .32 ohms of added resistance due to the cable....yes...so significant.

http://www.solidsignal.com/prod_display...ain_cat=2030405&CAT=&PROD=1829AC10UBLK

OP do not worry, it will work fine
Don't forget about, um, interference, and stuff. You need Monster cables to prevent it.

oh of couse....because a couple layers of shielding doesn't work by itself...you need gold plated shielding....Let me show you a graph before and after monster cables were used...

:p

The MONSTER difference!

BEFORE monster cables



AFTER monster cables

Shens! It's not the same wallet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111one


DUH! he had to sell his wallet and buy a cheapie walmart in addition to the cash to afford the monster... jeesh
 

PurdueRy

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Monster's website actually becomes more of a joke after a few classes in field effect devices, magnetic fields and electric fields

What is magnetic flux tube?
This is a specially-designed dielectric tube that runs down the middle of a group of different gauge windings. This helps break up the magnetic field generated from the current flowing through the cable?s conductors. We wrap the larger solid-core conductors (the culprit of this magnetic field) around this dialectric for maximum affect.

Oh...so what ALL RG6 cable has?

What is the warranty on my cables?
Lifetime Warranty

Thanks Monster....thats so generous of you

What does Time Correct mean?
Monster?s way of compensating for something called "Velocity Propagation" or better known as the skin effect. An analog audio signal passing through a copper cable succumbs to this law of physics in which bass frequencies tend to gravitate towards the center of the cable; higher frequencies are forced to the outer portion of the cable. The higher mass bass frequencies create a magnetic field in the center of the cable while traveling through the conductor, which impedes those lower frequencies. This impedance forces those lower frequencies to arrive at their destiny (the speaker or amp) delayed, which causes a mild distortion in the waveform. Monster utilizes multiple gauge windings to help compensate for this distortion. Large, solid-core copper strands in the center for bass frequencies (containing higher mass) and smaller gauges wrapped around the solid core conductor to delay the mid?s and high?s ensuring that the entire bandwidth of frequencies arrive in uniform.

This is Monster's attempt to use lots of big words and not tell people what they mean...I wonder why they don't give us a number on how big this lag is...

Will I notice a difference if I hook up my cables in the wrong direction?

You probably will not, but if you think that you are experiencing noise problems, check that they are. Cables are directional for shielding purposes only. Should you not see these arrows, remember that the signal flow should go in the same direction of the print on the cable jacket, reading left to right away from the source (source to destination)

Oh...and ask them if you will notice a difference if you use their cables and I'm sure they will say differently
 
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We regularly use RG6 runs over 50' for subwoofers when we wire up homes for distributed audio systems. Some home theaters set ups use long runs as well. Works like a champ.
 

spidey07

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In all seriousness, that cable is pretty important and one really should get one of decent quality for the pre-amp/amp being used. At 50 feet it becomes even more important.

I'm all for "cables are cables" but that link has been proven to have an effect on sound through measurement and ABX testing.

Perhaps we could know the models we're talking about here to see if it matters? Most likely it will not, but there is a chance.
 

Howard

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Originally posted by: jonessoda
As a lifer, I doubt Howard is a plant. But maybe he's always worked for Monster Cable.
What's wrong with Monster Cable? I'd sell my firstborn child to work for them.

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