What is the holy grail of snacking?

Charmonium

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For some, it's being able to split and Oreo so precisely that you get an equal amount of stuffing on both side. Unfortunately, that seems to offend the delicate sensibilities of the laws of fluid dynamics according the MIT researchers who have now created a new branch of science - Oreology. The idea alone might be worthy of a Nobel prize.

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“In essentially all possible twisting configurations, the creme tends to delaminate from one wafer, resulting in one nearly bare wafer and one with almost all the creme,” Owens tells Vice’s Becky Ferreira. “In the case that creme ends up on both wafers, it tends to divide in half so that each wafer has a ‘half-moon’ of creme rather than a thin layer, so there is no secret to get creme evenly everywhere just by twisting open—you have to mush it manually if that's what you want.”

The results were surprising, as Owens and her colleagues fully expected to be able to split the creme with some experimental techniques in the lab. To understand the scientific underpinnings of the iconic black-and-white cookie made by Nabisco, they used an instrument known as a rheometer, which twisted the cookie between two plates.
 

lxskllr

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An amazing 'in shell' peanut. They're all pretty good, but every so often you get one that takes it to a whole new level. Pistachios also.
 

BoomerD

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Different times of the day, different snacks, but overall...peanut butter cookies> everything.
 
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Cheez-it Snap'd Crackers, Double Cheese, 2.2 oz., 6/Carton ...




You can thank me later.
 

Charmonium

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Cheez-it Snap'd Crackers, Double Cheese, 2.2 oz., 6/Carton ...'d Crackers, Double Cheese, 2.2 oz., 6/Carton ...




You can thank me later.
Went to their site and looked at the label. It says zero grams trans fat but we know that means that they're using some amount of hydrogenated oil. It just has to be less than 0.5 grams per serving. I made the mistake of looking at a box of 100 calorie pouches (21 grams). So that point 5 isn't insignificant.

Of course it might be less than 0.5. The problem is with it being in there at all. If there were TRULY 0 grams, it wouldn't be on the label.
 

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An amazing 'in shell' peanut. They're all pretty good, but every so often you get one that takes it to a whole new level. Pistachios also.

Those are some my favorites. The 7-11 here used to have jalapeno pistachios. When they went on clearance I bought every bag. I have never found a jalapeno pistachio as nice as those ever again. I used to like hoody's peanuts but I don't see them in stores anymore.

I do like some salami, cheese and crackers. Maybe with some pepperoncini on the side..
 

sandorski

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Dried Fruit has been a recent discovery. Apricots, apple, mango, pineapple, and coconut chunks. Not too sweet, various textures, and not terrible for most peoples health.

Salt n Vinegar Lay's are the Standard though.
 

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Went to their site and looked at the label. It says zero grams trans fat but we know that means that they're using some amount of hydrogenated oil. It just has to be less than 0.5 grams per serving. I made the mistake of looking at a box of 100 calorie pouches (21 grams). So that point 5 isn't insignificant.

Of course it might be less than 0.5. The problem is with it being in there at all. If there were TRULY 0 grams, it wouldn't be on the label.

I read somewhere that trans fat is actually good for you; don't listen to the know-it-alls that say it's bad. They don't know what they're talking about.
 

Torn Mind

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I dunno, grapes or potato chips for me?
Or if it didn't cause me diarrhea when too much is eaten, watermelon...
 

Charmonium

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I read somewhere that trans fat is actually good for you; don't listen to the know-it-alls that say it's bad. They don't know what they're talking about.
Not going to argue but I think it might be a good idea to double check the reliability of your sources. After all, there are many good reasons why it has been limitted to less than a half gram per serving.

The diff between natural 'cis' fat and trans is the shape. Trans, iIRC is fairly linear while cis is more curvy. And apparently, because of that structual diff, it's more easily oxidized. What's more, in most of the history of humanity, your macrphage cells (part of the immune system) have never really had to deal with trans fats.

Now critics will tell you that animal products have nominal amounts of trans fats. Not sure how "nominal" is defined though. The point is though that oxidized trans fat chokes those cells. Eventually they become so bloated with this that they can't get rid off that they crawl into a hole and die. The 'hole' in question though happens to be your arteries.
 
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Not going to argue but I think it might be a good idea to double check the reliability of your sources. After all, there are many good reasons why it has been limitted to less than a half gram per serving.

The diff between natural 'cis' fat and trans is the shape. Trans, iIRC is fairly linear while cis is more curvy. And apparently, because of that structual diff, it's more easily oxidized. What's more, in most of the history of humanity, your macrphage cells (part of the immune system) have never really had to deal with trans fats.

Now critics will tell you that animal products have nominal amounts of trans fats. Not sure how "nominal" is defined though. The point is though that oxidized trans fat chokes those cells. Eventually they become so bloated with this that they can't get rid off that they crawl into a hole and die. The 'hole' in question though happens to be your arteries.
I flunked out of organic chemistry but I still remember concepts such as "cis" and "trans", single bonds, double bonds, triple bonds, etc. I forget a lot of the populace don't even get that far.
Cis and trans refers to which "side" of particular plane certain chemical groups are. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cis–trans_isomerism

Eladic acid(the "guilty" trans fat) is actually "straight" while oleic acid has a bend.

One of the "natural" trans fats is conjugated linoleic acid. It appears to have inconsistent results depending on the study. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0889157509000210

So, if anything, it is possible the some of the naturally-occuring trans fats in meat do not cause the same detrimental effects as the "trans fats" that come from hydrogenating plant-derived oils. Eladic acid, even though it naturally in small amounts, is not one of the "ok" trans fats; most of the supply though, comes from seed oils.

If anything, the shape of the trans fat obviously would change the nature of the cell membranes using that fat as material; then everything related to transporting stuff in and out of the cell is affected. The cell then "malfunctions".

As typical of chemicals, they can be part of a "class" with similar properties, but sometimes individuals show differences compared to others in its class. Like stearic acid's effect on cholesterol levels and the proven effect in causing mitochondria to fuse.

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An amazing 'in shell' peanut. They're all pretty good, but every so often you get one that takes it to a whole new level. Pistachios also.

in shell, seasoned peanuts..whatever always good. ballpark in shell nuts, properly salted. Very very hard to beat.

All nuts work.

Except cashews. That shit is for communists and considered "health food" for people that regularly eat hot pockets.
 
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