What is the highest kilobit encoded mp3 that I can burn and have it be played perfectly?

[Comp625]

What is the highest kilobit encoded mp3 that I can burn and have it be played perfectly?

I remember trying this a while ago with my really old 2x2x6 burner by burning a 256kbps mp3 but it wouldn't play in my stereo player. Now I have a 32x12x40 Lite-On and I was wondering if I was able to burn these high bitrate-encoded mp3s without them giving me a "buzzing" sound when playing it on a stereo player.

Thanks!

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

See if you can burn a 1,440kbps mp3

nik

 

[Platypus]

Hmmm I don't know what kind of CD player you have but I burn mp3s at 300+ and they sound fine.

 

[Comp625]

Hmm...can I burn a 320kbps mp3 onto a CD-RW and put it in my Stereo system and see if it plays that? My stereo system is some cheap ass system from a company named "Fisher". It's my personal stereo player...I'm only 16 ya know. Can't afford the latest or greatest

 

[mithrandir2001]

The MP3 spec limits the bitrate at 320kbps, though there are some implementations that allow you to go higher.

Your burner has nothing to do with it...if you are simply writing an MP3 file to your CD-R, it's just a file like an EXE or DOC. If it's being converted to a WAV, then the limitation is your conversion software, not your burner. If your MP3 CD-R cannot be read by your MP3 CD player, it's probably the CD player's fault (though this is unlikely).

 

[goodoptics]

For some reasons my Alpine CD changer won't play CD-RWs.

 

[Comp625]

My stereo system can read CD-Rs perfectly. Let me state that I can burn and play 192kbps mp3s perfectly. It's 256kbps and 320kbps ones that my stereo has trouble with.

 

[Valhalla1]

Originally posted by: Comp625
Hmm...can I burn a 320kbps mp3 onto a CD-RW and put it in my Stereo system and see if it plays that? My stereo system is some cheap ass system from a company named "Fisher". It's my personal stereo player...I'm only 16 ya know. Can't afford the latest or greatest

Like Fisher Price you mean?

 

[d1abolic]

Um.. you know you have to convert MP3 to WAV before burning... right?

 

[Comp625]

Um.. you know you have to convert MP3 to WAV before burning... right?

Sigh I'm not stupid. I have already stated, I CAN BURN MP3s that are encoded in the 192kbps bitrate or less (AND IT FREAKIN WORKS IN THE STEREO PLAYER). But each time that I burn a 256kbps or 320kbps encoded mp3, the cd player just gives out a buzzing noise. It doesn't play the mp3 at all.

 

[silverpig]

You got something messed up then. If anything, I'd have thought that you could only encode/decode/record/play mp3s that have been encoded ABOVE a certain bitrate due to info loss...

 

[erikistired]

hey! i chose my nick after a kick butt pair of speakers made by fisher i've had since i got on the net in 94. so don't diss fisher (yeah okay their components suck, but their old school speakers rocked).

and 192kbps for me sounds pretty dang good when done with a good encoder. if you're doing 256+ and it sounds bad something might be wrong with your system or burner. read the rest of the thread, try different software maybe. i'm using cdex with the newest lame encoder but i do vbs or 192.

~erik

 

[PliotronX]

Some MP3 implementations in standalone players are limited to certain frames. For example some might play between 32Kbps and 256Kbps frames while another might play between 128Kbps and 320Kbps. Have you checked your CD player's manual to see if there is any mention of frame limitations?

 

[divinemartyr]

Sigh I'm not stupid. I have already stated, I CAN BURN MP3s that are encoded in the 192kbps bitrate or less (AND IT FREAKIN WORKS IN THE STEREO PLAYER). But each time that I burn a 256kbps or 320kbps encoded mp3, the cd player just gives out a buzzing noise. It doesn't play the mp3 at all.

Sounds like a limitation of your equipment to only read 192 kbps and below.

dm

 

[Gunbuster]

You are burning back to CDDA?

If so you are converting the MP3 back to WAV/CDDA to be burned as a normal audio.

Sounds like a decode problem with your burning program

 

[andylawcc]

no offense, but why would you need anything over 192? or even 256? I mean, can you actually differentiate such high bitrate?

 

[Comp625]

I would want to download lower bitrate mp3s around the 128-192 range but there are a few rare old mp3s that people rip from cds and are only available on 320 or 256kbps. That's why

 

[silverpig]

<<no offense, but why would you need anything over 192? or even 256? I mean, can you actually differentiate such high bitrate?>>

If I use my headphones, I can tell between original wav and 256 mp3 without too much trouble, and if I listen really closely and play both samples 15 times each or so, I can even tell between 320 kbps and original wav... With some clips it's not noticeable at all, but when you're listening to an entire cd, you can definitely tell that there's popping and chirping with an mp3 -> wav decoded song at some points.

 

[mithrandir2001]

Originally posted by: silverpig
If I use my headphones, I can tell between original wav and 256 mp3 without too much trouble, and if I listen really closely and play both samples 15 times each or so, I can even tell between 320 kbps and original wav.

You must be listening to MP3s created by an inferior encoder like Xing or Blade. It's very unlikely you can tell a LAME 3.90+ alt-preset extreme file from the original WAV except for a few tough sound clips...or you're 15 years old and can hear over 20KHz and have an exceptionally deep threshold of hearing.