What is the fastest Pentium 3 that will run on this motherboard?

[westsidetilldadayidie]

Just like the Message Title states, what is the fastest Pentium 3 or Celeron I can run on my ASUS P3B-F motherboard with/without additional adapters (such as Slot 1-to-Slot T or Socket 370-to-Slot 1). Also, will any of these P3s or Celeron's run on my motherboard, and if so, which one should I buy? The CPUs are as follows:

1. Coppermine/Tualatin Pentium 3 1.0GHz 100MHz or 133MHz FSB with/without Socket 370-to-Slot 1 Adapter

2. Coppermine Pentium 3 1.0GHz 100MHz FSB with Socket 370-to-Slot 1 Adapter

3. Coppermine Pentium 3 1.4GHz 133MHz FSB with Socket 370-to-Slot 1 Adapter

4. Coppermine/Tualatin Celeron 1.4GHz 100MHz FSB with Slot 1-to-Slot T or Socket 370-to-Slot 1 Adapter

My motherboard is Revision 1.03 with Version 1006 BIOS, and therefore, as ASUS quotes, it "can run any Pentium 3 Slot 1 or Socket 370 (with the use of a conversion to Slot 1 or Slot T adapter) CPU up to 1GHz, but with 100MHz FSB only." However, according to the guys who answered my previous question in this thread below, you can use native 133MHz CPUs on this motherboard just fine, with/without the use of a Slot 1-to-Slot T or Socket 370-to-Slot 1 adapter (depending on the type of interface the CPU utilizes).

Please help me out here, and thank you all very, very much in advance.

Edit: Can you guys also help me find the best AGP 2x or maybe even backwards-compatible 4x or 8x card that will work well with this AGP 2x motherboard and its out-of-spec 89MHz AGP bus (once the CPU is overclocked to 133MHz FSB)? Would an nVidia GeForce 4 Ti 4600 128MB DDR SDRAM work? Or is that too much? Perhaps an ATI Radeon 9200 Pro 128MB DDR SDRAM or nVidia GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 128MB DDR SDRAM.

 

[DaveSimmons]

The BX chipset had no official support for 133 MHz support, but the overclock worked fine for many people. There was even a motherboard or two qualified by the manufacturer (but not intel) for 133 FSB use.

For a random BX motherboard it's something of a gamble whether it will run stably, just like for people who bought a P4 2.4C to overclock to 3.2.

FYI, a Celeron 800, 900, or 1 GHz (non-tualatin) will be slower than a P3 at the same speed, but if I recall old benchmarks correctly it's only around 10% -- so a celeron 900 MHz will be about the same as a P3 800 MHz.

You could also think about getting a "slot-T" adapter instead of a plain slotket, and get a Tualatin celeron 1.0A or faster. These should match a P3 100 FSB at the same speed.

You could also try a WTB listing in FS/FT, especially if you don't mind a Celeron 800 - 1 GHz.

 

[bacillus]

yes that board will do 133fsb but you must have a videocard capable of running an AGP of 89Mhz!

 

[DaveSimmons]

Originally posted by: bacillus
yes that board will do 133fsb but you must have a videocard capable of running an AGP of 89Mhz!

Good point, unless the motherboard has settings for 2:1 AGP and 4:1 PCI you'll be running them out of spec too.

 

[redbeard1]

A 133 mhz bus intel chip is multiplier locked. Either chip should work at 100 mhz, but at the locked multiplier. 1000=750, 800=600.

Do you mean that you can't find any 100 mhz cpu's? Because they made slot 1, 100 mhz cpu's up to 1000 mhz, though 850 was the most common higher speed slot 1.

Pricewatch.com lists a few places with new 1000/100 cpu's yet.

 

[oldfart]

However, there are literally NO P3s with 100FSB that have any clock speed higher than 600MHz

You can do MUCH better.
Use an Upgradeware Slot-T adapter and a Tualatin Celeron. I upgraded a friends PC about a year ago. P3B-F with a Slot-T and a Celeron 1.4. Set the FSB to 115 for a nice 1.6 GHz @ default Vcore. The 1.4's are hard to find now, but 1.3 are still out there last I looked.

 

[THUGSROOK]

why bother?

 

[DaveSimmons]

Originally posted by: THUGSROOK
why bother?

Some truth to that. If you get something like that Sempron + MB deal for $49 that Outpost was offering awhile back, plus 512 MB of PC3200 and a cheap HSF, you'd have a system that's as fast as a P3 1.8 GHz for around $130.

 

[westsidetilldadayidie]

Bump for new question.

 

[DaveSimmons]

I'd go with the Tualatin Celeron 1.2 - 1.4 and a Slot-T tualatin-370-to-slot-1 adapter. You'll run at 100 FSB instead of 133 (which might not be stable) and your AGP will be 66 instead of 89.

Either that or a new nforce2 motherboard, some DDR and a sempron or XP.

Pair that with the gf4 ti and you have a good combination that should run 100% stably. Or a used greforce 3 from the FS/FT forum would be better than the awful fx5200.

 

[TONYNINER]

I am using an Asus P2b-f slot 1 mobo using a slot 1 PIII 1GHz cpu on 133FSB with pc133 512MB/windowsXP.

The video card I am using which was quite a surprise that it worked is a Guillemot (hercules) 3D Phrophet 64mb agp card (2x) and is very comfortable with 133fsb speed, have not had ANY Problems what-so-ever!

This video card, as far as I know from my personal experience runs fantastic and is capable of handling the oc speed of the agp port using 133fsb.

Hope this helps.

 

[Eug]

I too would suggest a 1.4 GHz Celeron Tualatin with Tualatin Slot-T adapter. The P3B-F is confirmed to work with that adapter. The only thing you should remember though is that you should have the 1008 beta BIOS installed.

Note however, that mobo I believe should support a 1/4 PCI divider. If so, then the PIII Tualatin should be fine too, assuming your video card can handle 89 MHz as others have said. If you want to be absolutely safe though, stick with the Celeron 1.4.

That's what I've done. I'm typing on an Asus P2B with Celeron 1.4 right now. I have a Radeon 9100 in it, and although it ain't great for any hardcore gaming, it's great for everything else, including office apps, surfing, light Photoshop, and stuff like that. Does OK even at light Unreal Tournament 2003 too.

 

[Insane3D]

Originally posted by: THUGSROOK
why bother?

Agreed...dumping money into a BX system in 2004 seems ridiculous to me.

To each his own I guess...

 

[DaveSimmons]

Old thread guys, westsidetilldadayidie probably made his upgrade decision 4 weeks ago.

But if you already had a pile of SDRAM, spending $50 for a Slotket-T and used Tualeron over 1 GHz isn't always a bad idea, since it saves a lot of work (mobo install, OS reinstall) and is cheaper than even an Outpost $70 Sempron bundle (plus $40-80 for DDR RAM and $30-60 for a new power supply).

 

[MegaWorks]

Any P3 133fsb should work with that mobo.

 

[clarkey01]

$206 for a PIII 1.4 Ghz ? !!!!