What is the difference between these two?

coomarlin

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Versions of Win ME.

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I know Win 98 SE is better, but my aunt insists on getting ME for her new machine. Can I still do a clean install from the cheaper step-up from '98 version? They both say they are upgrades.
 

Shack70

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They are both upgrades! One will upgrade only 98 and the other will upgrade any other veriosn of windows(3.1,95,98) :D
 

coomarlin

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But can I do a clean install? I have a copy of win 98 SE that I can use for proof of upgrade. I don't want to buy the ME Steup from 98 if I can't do a clean instll from it.
 

jaywallen

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I believe the step-up version will only update very specific parts of the Win98 OS. I don't believe you can do a clean install with it. (Remember, they did this before with the first version of Win98. The Win98SE update would only update a Win98 install. The Win98SE upgrade was capable of a clean install.)

The upgrade, obviously, is capable of a clean install.

 

reicherb

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Yes you can do an upgrade. Just have a copy of Win98 handy. It will ask for it.
 

Rio Rebel

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I don't know what Jaywallen is talking about. If the ME step-up only &quot;updates part of the operating system&quot;, that's the first time they've made one like that. I used win98 and win95 upgrade disks all the time as full installs. I did it just this week at the computer lab where I work.

I can't tell you with 100% certainty about ME, because I've never installed it from an upgrade. But I know for a fact that all of the versions of win95 and 98 were the same as the full disks if you had a full version of the earlier OS handy.
 

TatSteeL

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just drop all those windows 9x and go for windows 2k, trust me you'll like. Its real stable
 

jaywallen

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Rio Rebel,

There was a $20 version of the Win98SE update (NOT upgrade) available from MS and over-the-counter that was NOT capable of a full install. I do know what I'm talking about. I helped a couple of people recover from the disastrous effects of using that version. It absolutely would not install on a clean drive. As I stated, it only specific files in the OS. There was NOT a complete OS file complement on the CD. Fact.

Regards,
Jim

Edit: Here's a URL that speaks to the point --

http://www.winmag.com/columns/insider/1999/072199.htm

Read the section of the page called WIN98 SECOND EDITION &quot;UPDATES&quot; CD CONFUSION. Because the terms &quot;update&quot; and &quot;upgrade&quot; have often been used loosely, there has indeed been a lot of confusion about this. The $20 UPDATE version was a disaster. I never saw anyone use it successfully, even immediately following a clean Win95 or Win98 installation. I guess that's why I can't even find any mention of it at the Microsoft site now!
 

cpumaster

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Jay,

isn't this thread question about upgrading to WinME? Remember his aunt only wants the &quot;newest and best Windows of all Windows&quot;.
Why are you talking about Win98Se upgrade or update instead?
Trying to change the subject?
 

jaywallen

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cpumaster,

I'm not changing the subject. I'm advising caution. Microsoft does NOT use the terms &quot;update&quot; and &quot;upgrade&quot; interchangeably on commercial packages. I'm trying to keep someone from getting stuck with a CD that cannot perform a clean install of the WinME software. I suspect that the WinME Step-Up is like the Win98SE Step-Up that caused so much consternation for so many.

Rio Rebel thought I didn't know what I was talking about. I posted a reference link.

I'm trying to be helpful to the originator of the thread. What are you trying to be?