The reason Dell's offer is great, well, would be great is because it is offering 20% off. This discount is not solely for the 8500. Just find yourself a $100 to BB or somewhere and go pick up a retail 8500 for $200. Dell can afford the 20% discount, I doubt we will see any prices in comparison to what Dell is offering. I may cancle my Dell order and pick up an OEM. The wait might not be worth the deal. I can give up HL in Truform and 25/25MHz which can be regained. Who knows, I may even end up going with the $239 Gainward GeForce3...