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What Is The Best Mobo And CPU

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shaynoa

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Hi Guys
Im looking at buying a new Motherboard, CPU, Ram in the next few months and i would like your advise.

will spend around $500.00 or less on the mobo
$400.00 CPU and $300.00 on ram

the mobo must have SLI/Crossfire
so what new hardware is coming on the market soon
thank Shaynoa
 
shaynoa said:
Hi Guys
Im looking at buying a new Motherboard, CPU, Ram in the next few months and i would like your advise.

will spend around $500.00 or less on the mobo
$400.00 CPU and $300.00 on ram

the mobo must have SLI/Crossfire
so what new hardware is coming on the market soon
thank Shaynoa
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firstly, that is a ton of money allocated to each of those components. you can get 8GB of ram for less than $100...and i'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that you don't need 24GB of ram. best cpu's right now are intel's sandy bridge quad cores (2500k [~$220] and 2600k [~$320]). best motherboards right now are intel-based p67 boards. they're coming out with a new chipset soon but that's what i'd suggest right now. also amd is releasing a brand new architecture known as 'bulldozer' soon, if you're going to wait then that's what you'd be waiting for...unless you wait long enough for intel to release the follow up to sandy bridge, known as ivy bridge.

it really depends on what you're using the computer for, concerning specifically which cpu you should buy. if you're "just" gaming, there's no reason to drop extra money on the 2600k over the 2500k. also, there's no such thing as a "best" motherboard. it depends largely on which manufacturer you personally trust the most. gigabyte, asus, msi...there are quite a few good brands out there.

regarding sli/crossfire, do you already have video cards in mind, or do you need help choosing them too? it sounds like you have it in your head to buy a pretty high end rig, but honestly judging by the way your post is written i don't know if you really understand quite how good components are these days. the $800 that you listed as being for ram, motherboard, and cpu not only tells me that you don't know how much these things cost, but possibly that you don't know how well they perform; you can get a very nice complete rig for $800. so, again, it really comes down to what you're doing with the machine, if you're gaming what resolution are you gaming at, etc etc.

at this point, though, i am going to make 2 more suggestions based on what your post tells me about you. 1. get an ssd. you will not be disappointed in the investment. 2. get a very good power supply. hopefully we can help you figure out exactly what you want in this thread, that way we can recommend a power supply as well.


EDIT:

just saw your second post...gaming? get intel 2500k. get 8gb of ram. get whatever motherboard you want.

2 gtx 580s? get a VERY good power supply. also /facepalm. i hope you like your room to be nice and toasty. what resolution are you gaming at?

also, you already have the gtx 580s? i have to say, that unless you got an EXTREMELY good deal on those, it's never a good idea to drop a ton of money on an extremely high end product (especially 2 of them), and then plan to amass the rest of your parts in "the next few months", leaving them sitting around depreciating in the meantime.
 
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My motherboard now is a Gigabyte -X58A-UD7
CPU 930
2 X ASUS Nvidia GTX 580
12 GIG 1600 Dominator Ram
1200 watt power supply Siverstone
in a cooler master full tower case
Shaynoa
 
shaynoa said:
My motherboard now is a Gigabyte -X58A-UD7
CPU 930
2 X ASUS Nvidia GTX 580
12 GIG 1600 Dominator Ram
1200 watt power supply Siverstone
in a cooler master full tower case
Shaynoa
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you will see little or no difference in upgrading. the only feasible reason i could comprehend for you to build a new rig at this point would be if you explicitly need 2 of them. but, despite architectural advantages held by intel's sandy bridge cpu's relative to your current i7 930, you would not notice any difference whatsoever in real-world gaming scenarios. so if this rig is you trying to upgrade, save your money.
 
I thank you for your time ,,,
with the sim game Trainz it is CPU driven and it needs a CPU that is fast they claim it dosen't use sli or crossfire however turn 1 off and it lags and is slow takes a while to load, so this is why i ask you about the CPU's,maybe i need a good guide on overclocking air cooled systems.
once more thank you for your time .
Shaynoa
 
shaynoa said:
Is the sandybridge 2600 CPU a better CPU than 930 or 980
shaynoa
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firstly, every single cpu mentioned here is very fast.

secondly, the sandy bridge 2500k and 2600k are nearly identical. the differences are that the 2600k is 100mhz faster (negligible, especially considering how much/easily either one can be overclocked), and that the 2600k has hyperthreading (also not important for gaming), and that the 2600k is about $100 more. they are technically superior to the 930 and 980. however, the 980 is a 6-core, 12 thread behemoth. it should be better for extremely highly threaded workloads, but for gaming there is absolutely no reason to go with the 980. in fact, the sandy bridge chips should be faster since you won't find a game today that can even use all of what the 4 non-HT cores of the 2500k can dish out. compared to the 930, the sandy bridge processors are superior, however if you aren't overclocking the 930 then i would definitely suggest you explore that avenue before you invest in a new cpu.

so:

try overclocking your 930. if you still aren't satisfied, then i will shake my head, let out a heavy sigh, and suggest that you buy a 2500k with whatever motherboard you want.

to be frank, i haven't kept up too much with how the p67 motherboards deal with multi-gpu setups, but i THINK they do not support 2 full bandwidth pci-e x16 lanes. this is something that i'm pretty sure your current motherboard *does* support. so, to fully utilize those gtx 580s, you may have to wait until they release a new chipset that supports both the latest cpus (lga 1155) *and* full bandwidth sli. in the meantime, you might have to "suffer" with your i7 930.

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http://www.buzz99.com/585/trainz-simulator-2010-engineers-edition-system-requirements/

is that what you're having trouble running? because your current rig should completely and utterly decimate that game, judging by the recommended specs. if you're actually having difficulty running the game and that is what prompted this thread, then it sounds to me like you have some sort of problem that is not indicative of insufficient hardware resources. what is the problem?
 
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Trainz TS 2010 is a very texture greedy game ,the train map that i built has roughly 70 locos all with rolling stock or passenger cars and all with set schedules that each loco and rolling stock has to follow right from the start.
So the computer has a lot of things to keep count of ,
yes straight out of the box it runs smooth as but once you start building a big route then the CPU's get sorted out,
in one area there may be 10.000 trees between buildings and citys
wire splines fence splines power line splines the list goes on and on, road, mountains .
money really isn't a problem within reason common sence
the extra $100 for the bigger CPU is not much to pay to get that little bit more .
Auran/N3V really put the basic recommended specs down , why it is because so many older people play the game and don't have great computers and they don't want to scare them away and loose sales
this tactic has been going on for years with them ,and they will not change the game engine for the same reason
shaynoa
 
Maybe the game is just coded poorly. Best way to tell is to overclock your 930 and see if your FPS increase, if so then I'd suggest the 2500K overclocked (2600K if you insist, but as already stated it's not worth it for gaming). Overclocking is much easier to do on sandy bridge than your 930.
 
Can you give me a link for a good overclocking guide for my air cooled setup please.
My motherboard now is a Gigabyte -X58A-UD7
CPU 930
2 X ASUS Nvidia GTX 580
12 GIG 1600 Dominator Ram
1200 watt power supply Siverstone
in a cooler master full tower case
Thank you very much for your help
Shaynoa
 
The fact that you are trying run an SLI set up with 2 very high end video cards would lead you to a board that has support for it. The boards that support the 2nd generation Intel® Core™ processors like the P67 chipset doesn’t support the bandwidth for 2 full x16 slots. From the P67 Chipset you would only get x8/x8 which would give you about a 5% or less, drop in performance to those video cards. So while the 2nd generation Intel Core I7 2600k will give you a better overall performance you may want to focus on getting the 1st generation Intel Core I7 930, 950 or the 960 and matching that up with a board based on the X58 chipset to get full SLI support. So a build like the Intel Core I7 960 and the DX58SO2 board would give you an excellent build for gaming and overall stability.


Christian Wood
Intel Enthusiast Team
 
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Patrick Wolf said:
Maybe the game is just coded poorly. Best way to tell is to overclock your 930 and see if your FPS increase, if so then I'd suggest the 2500K overclocked (2600K if you insist, but as already stated it's not worth it for gaming). Overclocking is much easier to do on sandy bridge than your 930.
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This.
The game only takes advantage of 2 cores.
I wouldn't upgrade to anything, since you really won't see much change, the best advice is to just o/c your current CPU, and wait for the trainz guys to fix their program to make use of quad cores or more.


IntelEnthusiast, I know intel is the 100lbs gorilla, but must you use a large font in your post ? 🙄
 
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