I don't know the answer, but I just ordered a MSI 128 mb version from newegg.com for $147 shipped. Probably could have got it cheaper if I waited a while longer, but then if you are willing to wait long enough, you could probably get one for $50. Of course you would not be able to use it while you wait for the next price drop, and the next one and the next one. I like the MSI card, it appears to have very good cooling for the GPU and ram, and also ships with a pretty good software bundle. I have not been disappointed with the quality of the MSI mainboards I have worked with over the years, so that was my choice. YMMV