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What is the best Final Fantasy after 7?
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FFVIII
I've actually never finished an FF game, even though I consider myself a die-hard fan. I tend to get carried away with the technicalities of the game, instead of just enjoying it.
VII - Too wrapped up in the Materia system. Never finished the 1st disc.
VIII - Got to Lvl 99, 3rd disc... then I restarted a new game with the "No Level Challenge" which is VERY challenging/tedious, but it comes with huge benefits by endgame.
IX - Got to the very end but never finished. Probably my least favorite game, and I don't really remember what about it got me all "OCD" and frustrated enough to give up.
X - zOMGzors... Sphere Grid, HELLO??? This is the game I got the furthest in, I actually started the boss battle, but I don't remember finishing. I think I wanted to go back and finish all the mini-quests and max out the characters more. I did the "Sphere Grid challenge" and totally rewrote the grid, and maxed out most of my characters stats. 255 on most stats on most characters. Yuna and Lulu could do 99,999 damage with their weapons!!! Haha, of course I had their Ultimate Weapons to get over 9,999 damage. 🙂
X-2 - Didn't get very far. Awful game, although I'd still try to beat it one day, for the story.
XI - I played for many many months... I loved that game. It's easily my favorite, but that's solely due to the online aspect... so it doesn't count. I was really sad when I cancelled. 🙁
XII - Played a good bit.. I was just too busy with stuff to give it 100%. I was bored with the warfare storyline... I don't like war movies and there were far too many cutscenes. It took a lot to get used to the pseudo-MMORPG battle system, although the FLOW was incredible and made the fights seem less "stop and go".
So with all that said, I've been having the urge to start playing RPGs again for the past few days... I want to play one!! I just need to do my research to decide on which game I want to challenge myself with. 🙂
I've actually never finished an FF game, even though I consider myself a die-hard fan. I tend to get carried away with the technicalities of the game, instead of just enjoying it.
VII - Too wrapped up in the Materia system. Never finished the 1st disc.
VIII - Got to Lvl 99, 3rd disc... then I restarted a new game with the "No Level Challenge" which is VERY challenging/tedious, but it comes with huge benefits by endgame.
IX - Got to the very end but never finished. Probably my least favorite game, and I don't really remember what about it got me all "OCD" and frustrated enough to give up.
X - zOMGzors... Sphere Grid, HELLO??? This is the game I got the furthest in, I actually started the boss battle, but I don't remember finishing. I think I wanted to go back and finish all the mini-quests and max out the characters more. I did the "Sphere Grid challenge" and totally rewrote the grid, and maxed out most of my characters stats. 255 on most stats on most characters. Yuna and Lulu could do 99,999 damage with their weapons!!! Haha, of course I had their Ultimate Weapons to get over 9,999 damage. 🙂
X-2 - Didn't get very far. Awful game, although I'd still try to beat it one day, for the story.
XI - I played for many many months... I loved that game. It's easily my favorite, but that's solely due to the online aspect... so it doesn't count. I was really sad when I cancelled. 🙁
XII - Played a good bit.. I was just too busy with stuff to give it 100%. I was bored with the warfare storyline... I don't like war movies and there were far too many cutscenes. It took a lot to get used to the pseudo-MMORPG battle system, although the FLOW was incredible and made the fights seem less "stop and go".
So with all that said, I've been having the urge to start playing RPGs again for the past few days... I want to play one!! I just need to do my research to decide on which game I want to challenge myself with. 🙂
KlokWyze
Diamond Member
Think I'm gonna play FFXII & go all the way through it sometime soon. It's story seems pretty weak, but story wasn't always my main focal point when playing FF's. I just love the fighting, character building, strategy side of it all the most. An interesting & cool story line surely doesn't hurt though.
Aikouka
Lifer
I donno, I'm at a time where I don't play many games anymore. I think World of Warcraft has some drugs built into it that kills your desire to play any game but it (so if you're not playing it, you're really not playing any games). It's kind of sad to admit, but my younger sister got much further in the game than I did, but I'm still better at gaming :evil:!
Man, why is everyone hating on FFVIII ??
I loved the GF system, and that they could give you skills, spells, etc. It was way more complex than the Aeon system in FFX, that's for sure. It was the first FF to have REAL looking characters, and that realism is what made like it more than any of the others. If they had only mastered the PlayStation BEFORE FFVII came out, I think FFVII would have been a much better looking game..
I also don't get why everyone hated the Draw/Magic system so much in FFVIII. Agreed, it made things a little tedious, but I loved how you could assign the magic stores to your stats to increase them a ton. I liked how that made battles a little harder, since you couldn't rely on your really powerful magic without weakening yourself. I think this is the most realistic of any of the post-FFVII games.. It deals less with the fantasy aspects, and almost borders on sci-fi.
You guys who hate FFVIII won't like this idea, but if you want things to be more challenging (and tedious) you should try the "No Level Challenge". Essentially, you only gain as little EXP as you absolutely can, and you turn the monsters in 95% of your battles into Cards. This way they only give you AP and no EXP, and by the time you reach toward the end of the game and have all of the GFs, they would have learned their HP, STR, MAG, etc bonuses that add +1 to that stat per level. Then you go to two islands, "Closest to Hell" and "Closest to Heaven" IIRC, where all the monsters are LVL 100 no matter what your level is. Once you win a battle, you gain like 20 levels at once, and end up getting +20 to all the stats your GFs gave you bonuses for. Rinse and repeat. It makes the game nice and challenging, until you get to "Heaven and Hell" and max out all your stats with the +1 GF bonuses and reach LVL 100. 🙂
Of course FFVIII isn't perfect... I'd like a combination of VII/VIII/X/XII all wrapped up into one game.
With all that said, I think most of the "hatred" for FFVIII is misconstrued. It's mostly due to FFVII being so incredibly overrated so that when FFVIII came out, everyone was "disappointed". FFVII obviously wouldn't have been so overrated if it weren't the first 3D FF game in the series, and it's because of this jump from 2D --> 3D that made the "jump" from FFVII --> FFVIII all the more disappointing to the masses. It's like everyone expected a whole new level of experience with VIII when the PlayStation simply didn't make that possible. So far, it seems like moving the FF franchise to a new platform always leads to a lot of hype, no matter how good/bad the game is. FFX is similarly overrated, ala VII, and I'm positive most of this was caused by the platform change.
What I want to see though is how PS3 is going to be able to create the next "overrated FF game". I just don't see it happening, since the PS3 has been a failure thus far. But that's getting off topic, so I'll save that discussion for some other time.
Cliffs
Get the patience to read more than 10 words, and read my damn post. 🙂
I loved the GF system, and that they could give you skills, spells, etc. It was way more complex than the Aeon system in FFX, that's for sure. It was the first FF to have REAL looking characters, and that realism is what made like it more than any of the others. If they had only mastered the PlayStation BEFORE FFVII came out, I think FFVII would have been a much better looking game..
I also don't get why everyone hated the Draw/Magic system so much in FFVIII. Agreed, it made things a little tedious, but I loved how you could assign the magic stores to your stats to increase them a ton. I liked how that made battles a little harder, since you couldn't rely on your really powerful magic without weakening yourself. I think this is the most realistic of any of the post-FFVII games.. It deals less with the fantasy aspects, and almost borders on sci-fi.
You guys who hate FFVIII won't like this idea, but if you want things to be more challenging (and tedious) you should try the "No Level Challenge". Essentially, you only gain as little EXP as you absolutely can, and you turn the monsters in 95% of your battles into Cards. This way they only give you AP and no EXP, and by the time you reach toward the end of the game and have all of the GFs, they would have learned their HP, STR, MAG, etc bonuses that add +1 to that stat per level. Then you go to two islands, "Closest to Hell" and "Closest to Heaven" IIRC, where all the monsters are LVL 100 no matter what your level is. Once you win a battle, you gain like 20 levels at once, and end up getting +20 to all the stats your GFs gave you bonuses for. Rinse and repeat. It makes the game nice and challenging, until you get to "Heaven and Hell" and max out all your stats with the +1 GF bonuses and reach LVL 100. 🙂
Of course FFVIII isn't perfect... I'd like a combination of VII/VIII/X/XII all wrapped up into one game.
With all that said, I think most of the "hatred" for FFVIII is misconstrued. It's mostly due to FFVII being so incredibly overrated so that when FFVIII came out, everyone was "disappointed". FFVII obviously wouldn't have been so overrated if it weren't the first 3D FF game in the series, and it's because of this jump from 2D --> 3D that made the "jump" from FFVII --> FFVIII all the more disappointing to the masses. It's like everyone expected a whole new level of experience with VIII when the PlayStation simply didn't make that possible. So far, it seems like moving the FF franchise to a new platform always leads to a lot of hype, no matter how good/bad the game is. FFX is similarly overrated, ala VII, and I'm positive most of this was caused by the platform change.
What I want to see though is how PS3 is going to be able to create the next "overrated FF game". I just don't see it happening, since the PS3 has been a failure thus far. But that's getting off topic, so I'll save that discussion for some other time.
Cliffs
Get the patience to read more than 10 words, and read my damn post. 🙂
GZFant
Senior member
6
7
2/8
9
10
I have not played 11 or 12.
I can't decide between 2 or 8. Cecil, Kain, Tellah, Golbez or Squall, Rinoa...
As far as 2, 6, 7, 8 and are concerned, I think they are all incredible in their own rights. I definitely have to say though I felt more for the characters in 2, 6, 7.
Cecil, Terra, Cloud and Tifa go down in history in my books.
7
2/8
9
10
I have not played 11 or 12.
I can't decide between 2 or 8. Cecil, Kain, Tellah, Golbez or Squall, Rinoa...
As far as 2, 6, 7, 8 and are concerned, I think they are all incredible in their own rights. I definitely have to say though I felt more for the characters in 2, 6, 7.
Cecil, Terra, Cloud and Tifa go down in history in my books.
Anubis
No Lifer
IMO
3,4,6,9 and 10 are all better then 7 ( not exactly in that order) as well as a few non FF RPGs
after 7 its a toss up for me between 9 and 10, i loved both
didnt finish 12, hell i only played about 30 min of it, the fact that i couldent revers the L/R camera movement controls made it near impossiable for me to deal with for more then about 5 min
thraashman
Lifer
Played 4, 6, 7, 8, 9
Didn't get into the games until late so I never played the earliest ones, nor have I gone back to play them since they've been remade. And I never got a PS2, so I never played anything newer than 9.
By and far 6 was the worst one I played. Boring characters and too many of them. Piss poor plot and no feeling to it. I was bored. Literally bored. Shortly after 'the world ended" I just stopped playing. I had no motivation to continue this boring, boring game.
FFVII was simply awesome. Never have I been so motivated to kill a final bad guy as I was Sephiroth. And the character development and plot was so involved and fun. I loved every minute of it.
FFIV was the next best to me. The game where it was like race to kill off your party. It was so much fun and had really one of the best plots.
FF8 was after that. I don't know why this game gets so much flak. It was genuinely fun with a great side game in the card game. Also it had one of the best developed love stories that actually had a freaking resolution!
FF9 I enjoyed a decent amount, but it obviously didn't stick with me that much as I barely remember anything about it other than it was the most anti-climactic final boss fight ever! I didn't care less whether or not I killed the final boss, he just sort of appeared and said "uh ... hi. I'm the real bad guy. we haven't met, but I'm gonna like kill you now or something." And the only thought in my head was "huh?"
If I ever bother getting a PS2, I'll pick up 10 and 12. I've heard 10 is a great game. Though that proves nothing with all these idiots touting 6 as anything but the steaming pile of crap it ended up being.
I should also comment that as far as Square games go, Vagrant Story trumps them all, and Chrono Trigger is only a hair behind 7 in awesomeness.
Didn't get into the games until late so I never played the earliest ones, nor have I gone back to play them since they've been remade. And I never got a PS2, so I never played anything newer than 9.
By and far 6 was the worst one I played. Boring characters and too many of them. Piss poor plot and no feeling to it. I was bored. Literally bored. Shortly after 'the world ended" I just stopped playing. I had no motivation to continue this boring, boring game.
FFVII was simply awesome. Never have I been so motivated to kill a final bad guy as I was Sephiroth. And the character development and plot was so involved and fun. I loved every minute of it.
FFIV was the next best to me. The game where it was like race to kill off your party. It was so much fun and had really one of the best plots.
FF8 was after that. I don't know why this game gets so much flak. It was genuinely fun with a great side game in the card game. Also it had one of the best developed love stories that actually had a freaking resolution!
FF9 I enjoyed a decent amount, but it obviously didn't stick with me that much as I barely remember anything about it other than it was the most anti-climactic final boss fight ever! I didn't care less whether or not I killed the final boss, he just sort of appeared and said "uh ... hi. I'm the real bad guy. we haven't met, but I'm gonna like kill you now or something." And the only thought in my head was "huh?"
If I ever bother getting a PS2, I'll pick up 10 and 12. I've heard 10 is a great game. Though that proves nothing with all these idiots touting 6 as anything but the steaming pile of crap it ended up being.
I should also comment that as far as Square games go, Vagrant Story trumps them all, and Chrono Trigger is only a hair behind 7 in awesomeness.
fatdragondzc
Senior member
X =D
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