what is the best choice for the PCI video card?

[gredodenda]

I have Dell Poweredge 1600sc, it has;

two 32-bit, 33-MHz PCI slots (5 V)
two 64-bit, 66-MHz PCI slots (3.3 V)
two 64-bit, 100-MHz PCI-X slots (3.3 V)



I'm trying to upgrade my old video card, what is the best PCI video card for me? Is PCI-X same as PCI express x16? I' dunno...

thanks

 

[BassBomb]

umm pci-x is not pci-e

best u could do is maybe a 9800 even thats dead these days... so your best bet is to get a full upgrade as the rest of your system must lack

 

[aniruddha23]

CHAINTECH Geforce FX5200 P-FX20 256MB Video Card

 

[CKTurbo128]

Originally posted by: aniruddha23
CHAINTECH Geforce FX5200 P-FX20 256MB Video Card

Wrong. The 3DFuzion GeForce 6200 128MB PCI is the best video card for PCI slots. You can find one here, for $76 USD: http://www.chumbo.com/Info.aspx?id=304966

I think BFG Tech. also makes one with 256 MB, but 256 MB on a slow card like this seems worthless. It's the only PCI card that has support for SM3.0. However, don't expect it to be fast at all.

 

[Auric]

Still recommending that o'erpriced junk? Shader Model 3.0 is irrelevant in a GPU which is already severely underpowered for games from the last half decade. By the time games actually require 3.0, that card will be virtually useless for them.

To put it in perspective, the 6200 has the equivalent performance of a GF4 MX460 or R9000 Pro. Just because it is a "6 series" does not make it competent (similarly, the GF4 MX itself was derided as a glorified GF2).

For example, v1.4 from four or five years ago (Radeon 9100 as below) is enough to allow running a recent game such as BF2 but video settings would probably still have to be low to medium (depending upon the rest of the system). I would not even think about trying it with the likes of a 6200, regardless of the other components.

wikipedia games & shaders

copied from recent AT thread:

Fill-rate (MT/s) / Memory Bandwidth (GB/s)
Geforce 6200: 1200 / 8.83
Radeon 9100: 2000 / 8.00
Radeon 8500: 2200 / 8.80

The 9100 (aka 8500LE) is an underclocked 8500. Default core/mem clocks are 250/250 (275/275 for 8500). I had an AGP model which could run at 290/300. I guess the 6200 must be capable of some oc'ing too and of course conforms to current DX shader specs but its relatively anemic performance prevents it from really being a contender for "best" PCI. A new price of $80 vs $40 pretty much knocks it out.

 

[v8envy]

Don't AGP 6200s sometimes unlock a second quad? A vanilla 6600 PCI would be an awesome thing to play with.

That being said, a $40 9100 PCI is definitely an awesome find. Dual monitor support and ATI 2D image quality for those day trading 3+ monitor workstations. I'm definitely making a note of that bad boy.

 

[F1shF4t]

Originally posted by: Auric
Still recommending that o'erpriced junk? Shader Model 3.0 is irrelevant in a GPU which is already severely underpowered for games from the last half decade. By the time games actually require 3.0, that card will be virtually useless for them.

To put it in perspective, the 6200 has the equivalent performance of a GF4 MX460 or R9000 Pro. Just because it is a "6 series" does not make it competent (similarly, the GF4 MX itself was derided as a glorified GF2).

For example, v1.4 from four or five years ago (Radeon 9100 as below) is enough to allow running a recent game such as BF2 but video settings would probably still have to be low to medium (depending upon the rest of the system). I would not even think about trying it with the likes of a 6200, regardless of the other components.

wikipedia games & shaders

copied from recent AT thread:

Fill-rate (MT/s) / Memory Bandwidth (GB/s)
Geforce 6200: 1200 / 8.83
Radeon 9100: 2000 / 8.00
Radeon 8500: 2200 / 8.80

The 9100 (aka 8500LE) is an underclocked 8500. Default core/mem clocks are 250/250 (275/275 for 8500). I had an AGP model which could run at 290/300. I guess the 6200 must be capable of some oc'ing too and of course conforms to current DX shader specs but its relatively anemic performance prevents it from really being a contender for "best" PCI. A new price of $80 vs $40 pretty much knocks it out.

The 6200 is an alright card, in fact i have a 6200 agp 64bit memory at 820mhz ram and it beats the fx 5700 which has 128bit memory. The fx5700 is CONSISTENTLY faster than the 8500 or the likes. When it comes to games the efficiency the 6 series core in the 6200 helps it a lot, and its not such a POS like the fx5200 was.

The 6200 will destroy the 8500 or 9100 cards when it comes to games, especially newer ones.

 

[TheRyuu]

So, you do you want a PCI card, PCIe card, PCI-X card, or (probably not) AGP card? I'm still not sure what you asked.

 

[gredodenda]

thanks guys, my pc don't have AGP because it's a poweredge server....I just want to know what pci and video card is the best for me since agp is not available..

thanks

 

[gredodenda]

oh, I forgot to mention, I currently have Geforce4 MX 440 pci.

 

[imported_Crusader]

Whether you run in DX8 mode or DX9... the PCI 6200 is the fastest PCI card available.

 

[Auric]

Available as in current production or actually available? Benchmarks showing the 6200 outperforming cards with twice its fill-rate please.

 

[BassBomb]

was there not a 9800 PCI?

 

[Munky]

I never heard of a 9800 pci

 

[bunnyfubbles]

Originally posted by: BassBomb
was there not a 9800 PCI?

maybe for Mac, but not quite for the PC.

The R9100 looks nice (should be able to play games the likes of BF2), but the 64MB of ram is dissapointing - then again, its only $40, if it had 128MB of ram it would definitely be the PCI card to have, I guess you'd just have to keep your resolutions low...

 

[BassBomb]

i think 9250 would be best choice... not sure about 6200 vs 9250... 9250 creams a 5200...