What is the best 120hz monitor? I am leaning toward samsung

notigg

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Samsung S23A750D 23-Inch Class 3D LED Monitor

that is the model I like the most.... I want one around that size and that resolution. But it is new so not many reviews yet. anyone have it?
 

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the problem is there are barely any reviews about it... hardly anybody owns them yet. So I can't say if I like it.

The ultimate Con for that one for me is how they are not vesa mountable... but that is because they put the 3D real tie conversion controls into the stand.. which I guess they couldn't fit into the panel without making it thick.

But I still am liking how thin that bezel looks for a triple setup
 

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I wonder how it will compare to Samsung 2233RZ, the reference 120Hz monitor at TFT Central for responsiveness test. Then again, its still a TN panel and its hard to go back to TN from IPS/PVA. :)
 

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I bought the A950 (27 inch that is) and am extremely happy with it. A few people have said the 750 has input lag and make sure you don't purchase the S model but the D.

For a bit more the 27 inch really makes things pop and with the slightly bigger pixels than a 23/24 inch monitor I find myself being able to see opponents in multiplayer I would have missed before.
 

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I have the s27a950d and I'm pretty sure the panels are the same on both the 750 and 950 models, just different inputs.

I have used the Samsung 2233RZ LCD as my main display since it was released, so I am quite familiar with it. The sa950 is a very good upgrade in my opinion and worth the money if you can afford it.

It feels like gaming on a smooth mini IMAX screen, you really feel like you are a part of the game with this monitor.

The 950 does everything better than my 2233RZ. Better colors, deeper blacks, faster response, bigger, better looking design and basically no heat from the display.

So that's what you can expect from the new 750 IMO, a really nice monitor :) Hope this helps!
 

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I have the s27a950d and I'm pretty sure the panels are the same on both the 750 and 950 models, just different inputs.

I have used the Samsung 2233RZ LCD as my main display since it was released, so I am quite familiar with it. The sa950 is a very good upgrade in my opinion and worth the money if you can afford it.

It feels like gaming on a smooth mini IMAX screen, you really feel like you are a part of the game with this monitor.

The 950 does everything better than my 2233RZ. Better colors, deeper blacks, faster response, bigger, better looking design and basically no heat from the display.

So that's what you can expect from the new 750 IMO, a really nice monitor :) Hope this helps!

Just for the record btw... I am currently using a samsung syncmaster XL2370 and it has a TN panel that I looked up... and I love it. so I wouldn't be "spoiled" by an IPS panel in that respect
 

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I wonder how it will compare to Samsung 2233RZ, the reference 120Hz monitor at TFT Central for responsiveness test. Then again, its still a TN panel and its hard to go back to TN from IPS/PVA. :)

Whats up with the "All TN panels are POS" trend nowadays? Viewing angles are not something that's absolutely vital for a PC monitor. I have compared alot of monitors extensively. The Samsung S27A950D is a TN monitor but trust me the subjective IQ looks way better than any of Dells insanely popular e-IPS monitors. I have the 120Hz 2233RZ and IQ is decent as well.
 

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Whats up with the "All TN panels are POS" trend nowadays? Viewing angles are not something that's absolutely vital for a PC monitor. I have compared alot of monitors extensively. The Samsung S27A950D is a TN monitor but trust me the subjective IQ looks way better than any of Dells insanely popular e-IPS monitors. I have the 120Hz 2233RZ and IQ is decent as well.

TN panels are POS. The colours are terrible and viewing angles are a further detriment to that issue. The only thing TN has going for it is response time.

And a large LOL to any TN looking as good as an IPS. They look awful, it's just something you get used to when it's all you use. The same way you get used to the quality of IPS when it's all you use. Any review of LCD monitors looking for IQ doesn't even include TNs, they're only relevant from a budget or response time perspective.


OP are you going to use this monitor for 3D ? If you're into that you should wait for these new-fangled 120hz monitors with this 'lightboost' rather than sink your money into the older tech ones on the market currently.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4966/nvidia-announces-3d-vision-2-and-3d-lightboost-technology

If you're just buying now, might as well wait rather than buy old-tech.
 
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Oh yeah, terrible viewing angles because everyone sits at a 180* from their monitor while gaming, pleeeaase.

I have an IPS LG 37" and i can't tell the difference between it and my "POS" 120Hz Viewsonic VX2265... because that's oh so important when trying to frag

The Acer offers a brighter screen at 60$ less. I'd go with the Acer
 

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I bought the A950 (27 inch that is) and am extremely happy with it. A few people have said the 750 has input lag and make sure you don't purchase the S model but the D.

For a bit more the 27 inch really makes things pop and with the slightly bigger pixels than a 23/24 inch monitor I find myself being able to see opponents in multiplayer I would have missed before.

You do realize that the A950 is awful right. You can't use it as a 120hz monitor in 2D, and it is slower than most 2ms TN panels.

The bezel thickness is the only real attractive part of the monitor, but it is ruined because it can't be VESA mounted. Giant waste of money for that monitor.
 

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I'm looking at getting that series of monitor as well soon. Now which would be better for a gaming setup, 23' or 27'?
 

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TN panels are POS. The colours are terrible and viewing angles are a further detriment to that issue. The only thing TN has going for it is response time.

And a large LOL to any TN looking as good as an IPS. They look awful, it's just something you get used to when it's all you use. The same way you get used to the quality of IPS when it's all you use. Any review of LCD monitors looking for IQ doesn't even include TNs, they're only relevant from a budget or response time perspective.


OP are you going to use this monitor for 3D ? If you're into that you should wait for these new-fangled 120hz monitors with this 'lightboost' rather than sink your money into the older tech ones on the market currently.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4966/nvidia-announces-3d-vision-2-and-3d-lightboost-technology

If you're just buying now, might as well wait rather than buy old-tech.
Nvidia just announced 3D Vision II and much more responsive displays in this next gen. The new ASUS 27" is one of these
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i have a 30" 2560x1600 HP LP 3065 as well as Surround/Eyefinity with 3x23" 120Hz ASUS displays, and there are definite advantages to 120Hz displays for fast shooters. IQ is better on the 30" panel but you won't notice in a shooter. And if you want 3D Vision, bigger is always better.
 
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You do realize that the A950 is awful right. You can't use it as a 120hz monitor in 2D, and it is slower than most 2ms TN panels.

The bezel thickness is the only real attractive part of the monitor, but it is ruined because it can't be VESA mounted. Giant waste of money for that monitor.

The A950 will do 120hz in 2d, same as the A750, but it only works over DisplayPort or Dual DVI cable (A750 actually only works over DP). The T-versions of these monitors are the gimped ones that will not to 120hz. Just make sure you get the S versions, S27A950D/S27A750D/S23A950D/S23A750D, all 4 of those will run 120hz in 2d no problem.
 

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I am sure that I want a setup that provides preferably 5760 width resolution ......... 2750 minimum... so that monitor is out of the question for me.

Which means I basically need to wait till they release the specs for those other two monitors for the nvidia 3d 2 technology......... and see if they are hopefully 24 inch so I can do 3 of them.

(I can't/won't do 3 of those 27 inch monitors. just too big and too much money)

I will do 3 400 dollar monitors though. Or 1 really good monitor around 1200
 

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TN panels are POS. The colours are terrible and viewing angles are a further detriment to that issue. The only thing TN has going for it is response time.

And a large LOL to any TN looking as good as an IPS. They look awful, it's just something you get used to when it's all you use. The same way you get used to the quality of IPS when it's all you use. Any review of LCD monitors looking for IQ doesn't even include TNs, they're only relevant from a budget or response time perspective.


OP are you going to use this monitor for 3D ? If you're into that you should wait for these new-fangled 120hz monitors with this 'lightboost' rather than sink your money into the older tech ones on the market currently.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4966/nvidia-announces-3d-vision-2-and-3d-lightboost-technology

If you're just buying now, might as well wait rather than buy old-tech.

You know I read so much hype about IPS over TN that I bought a Dell U2311. Other than viewing angle from below it doesn't do any better than my previous LG W2442. In fact I actually prefer the colors on the W2442. Switched to the Samsung 2233rz and couldn't be happier with the gain in smoothness and clarity when gaming.
 

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You know I read so much hype about IPS over TN that I bought a Dell U2311. Other than viewing angle from below it doesn't do any better than my previous LG W2442. In fact I actually prefer the colors on the W2442. Switched to the Samsung 2233rz and couldn't be happier with the gain in smoothness and clarity when gaming.

Different strokes. I just can't see that. TNs look awful. Maybe they use different panels in smaller sized Dells. I can't see that though.

I have a 24" MVA LG monitor as well that also looks miles better than any TN out there. I like the fluidity of motion on a 120hz screen, but it doesn't make up for the smaller resolution and poor IQ.
 

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The A950 will do 120hz in 2d, same as the A750, but it only works over DisplayPort or Dual DVI cable (A750 actually only works over DP). The T-versions of these monitors are the gimped ones that will not to 120hz. Just make sure you get the S versions, S27A950D/S27A750D/S23A950D/S23A750D, all 4 of those will run 120hz in 2d no problem.

I am under the impression that 120hz only works over DVI? Could be wrong though. Either way the monitor has enough input lag to make it comparable to a 5ms TN panel.
 

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I am under the impression that 120hz only works over DVI? Could be wrong though. Either way the monitor has enough input lag to make it comparable to a 5ms TN panel.
input lag and screen response time are two different things.
 

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I dont know what the best one is. I can only comment on my AW2310, which is a complete boss! im not even using it for 3D gaming. Just the 120hz alone makes me a happy camper.
 
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The-Noid

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You do realize that the A950 is awful right. You can't use it as a 120hz monitor in 2D, and it is slower than most 2ms TN panels.

The bezel thickness is the only real attractive part of the monitor, but it is ruined because it can't be VESA mounted. Giant waste of money for that monitor.

I use it at 120hz in 2d mode on a daily basis...not sure where you got this.
 

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I am under the impression that 120hz only works over DVI? Could be wrong though. Either way the monitor has enough input lag to make it comparable to a 5ms TN panel.

You are confusing the T and S. T is 60 hz and has 46 ms of input lag. S was tested with between 7 and 10ms of input lag...1fps is 16ms...
 
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VulgarDisplay

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input lag and screen response time are two different things.

Sort of, but when a monitor has horrible input lag the response time will be worse right? Maybe I'm wrong about the samsung monitor in question. I didn't even know there were different versions of it available. The inability to vesa mount it is still a major issue. They make a monitor screaming for gamers to use it in eyefinity and give it the most awful asymmetrical stand they could imagine.