What is the American dream to you?

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AyashiKaibutsu

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American dream is being able to work hard and afford a house + some small luxury for you and a small family.

My dad pretty much did that after leaving the navy, and he admits if he grew up now he'd probably be a bum somewhere.
 

hal2kilo

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American dream is being able to work hard and afford a house + some small luxury for you and a small family.

My dad pretty much did that after leaving the navy, and he admits if he grew up now he'd probably be a bum somewhere.

The sad reality is of the lack of mobiity in our economy today. My son was just laid of from his loser job at Barnes and Noble.
 

Infohawk

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Seems like the main definitions are:
1) Everyone can afford a relatively comfortable existence (house, car) without fear of invasion or other strife that the rest of the world seemed to have to deal with every 50 years.
2) Everyone has their shot at the pipe dream of making it rich.

The sad reality is of the lack of mobiity in our economy today. My son was just laid of from his loser job at Barnes and Noble.

What is a loser job? I think we've also lost some of the American dream because people always want more and everyone wants their kid to be a doctor or lawyer. The point isn't to be more comfortable than others, just to be comfortable.
 

irishScott

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The opportunity to build my own future, and the freedom to exercise my natural rights.

My personal dream is find a job I love so much I'll never want to retire, and hopefully via that job have a positive impact on as large a scale as I can manage. I doubt I'll ever stop working, I'd go insane knowing I was just sitting around wasting time for any extended period. I'd feel my mind start to rot. :p
 

Texashiker

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10 years ago I was doing some work in Kingwood Texas. Kingwood is a mostly upper class area. To give you an idea, the high school parking lot looks like a BMW car lot, and that was the student side.

One guy I was doing some work for, he retired to kingwood after working for AT&T for most of his life.

Between 2000 and 2002, his property taxes had almost doubled. At the time he was paying close to $10,000 in property taxes yearly on around a 2,000 square foot house with a small pool.

The man told me if the property taxes went up anymore, he would have to sell his house and move. Even though the property taxes were going up, his retirement check was staying the same.

His choices were to go back into the work force, or move. The only long term solution was to move.

Even though he had a nice retirement, and picked a nice low crime area to retire at, he did not know property and school taxes were going to go through the roof.

Its like no matter what you do, the rug is pulled out from under your plans.
 
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SamurAchzar

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My own company. Never retire - as the saying goes I'll have enough time to rest when I'm dead.
Nice house 20-30 minutes from a major urban center (preferably SF area) but with no neighbors right in sight, or a reasonably large lot that I'm not bothered with them. Nice landscaping.

Take trips throughout the country every few months, long road trips are fun.

Ride dirt bikes every week, take my car to trackdays every other week.
 

Jadow

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crush your enemies, see them driven before you, hear the lamentation of their women.