what is that thin piece of tire that can be found on the road

[alfa147x]

what is that thin piece of tire that can be seen on the road
just the thread of the tire
how do those come off of tires?
how can i make sure I dosnt happen to me 1994 Nissan Altima ?

 

[Dr. Detroit]

How? Don't buy retreads.

 

[alfa147x]

Originally posted by: Fmr12B
How? Don't buy retreads.

I take it that they just put new treads on old tires?

I have never heard of them before

 

[RiDE]

Just check your tire and tire pressure regularly. Tread separation can be caused by various reasons, and underinflation is one of them.

 

[foghorn67]

Originally posted by: Fmr12B
How? Don't buy retreads.

Re-treads are the budget savers for truckers. But for them, it's actually do-able.

 

[thedarkwolf]

My first car had retreads on it when I bought it. Never gave me any problems but not really worth it as cheap as car tires are. For rigs its a bit different.

 

[AdamK47]

In the Summer I always see tire bits all over the roads here. They rarely clean it up either.

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: alfa147x

Originally posted by: Fmr12B
How? Don't buy retreads.

I take it that they just put new treads on old tires?

I have never heard of them before

I'd say that most semis use retreads, because they have double tires and if one blows out they don't lose control. Also, with 18+ tires, every bit of savings counts.

Tread separation on a passenger car without retreads is very, very rare.

 

[Throckmorton]

Originally posted by: jagec

Originally posted by: alfa147x

Originally posted by: Fmr12B
How? Don't buy retreads.

I take it that they just put new treads on old tires?

I have never heard of them before

I'd say that most semis use retreads, because they have double tires and if one blows out they don't lose control. Also, with 18+ tires, every bit of savings counts.

Tread separation on a passenger car without retreads is very, very rare.

Do they not use retreads on the front wheels?

 

[sniperruff]

Originally posted by: jagec

Originally posted by: alfa147x

Originally posted by: Fmr12B
How? Don't buy retreads.

I take it that they just put new treads on old tires?

I have never heard of them before

I'd say that most semis use retreads, because they have double tires and if one blows out they don't lose control. Also, with 18+ tires, every bit of savings counts.

Tread separation on a passenger car without retreads is very, very rare.

yeah i believe most are from trucks... i often see trucks with tires that are completely bald with cracks on them.

 

[JulesMaximus]

It is from big rigs...you know, 18 wheelers. They will sometimes lose a tread, I've seen it happen and even had a large hunk of tread kicked up into the front of a work truck I was driving at the time. I don't know if they just lose pressure in one tire from debris, age, overweight/overheated but when they come apart it just shreds the entire tire.

 

[alfa147x]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
It is from big rigs...you know, 18 wheelers. They will sometimes lose a tread, I've seen it happen and even had a large hunk of tread kicked up into the front of a work truck I was driving at the time. I don't know if they just lose pressure in one tire from debris, age, overweight/overheated but when they come apart it just shreds the entire tire.

I would guess that its caused by heat and what ever they hold the 'rethreads' on with

 

[alkemyst]

many of the ones you see on the side of the road fall off the truck carrying the retreads to be put on and the rest are usually caused by improper installation, overload, and the like. I believe aircraft and many mil-spec vehicles use retreads.

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: Throckmorton


Do they not use retreads on the front wheels?

IIRC they are not allowed to, at least not in all states.

 

[Pacfanweb]

Originally posted by: jagec

Originally posted by: Throckmorton


Do they not use retreads on the front wheels?

IIRC they are not allowed to, at least not in all states.

Yeah, I don't think that would be too pretty if a big rig lost its front tire suddenly. I wouldn't want to be on the road near him.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: jagec

Originally posted by: Throckmorton


Do they not use retreads on the front wheels?

IIRC they are not allowed to, at least not in all states.

I think most states do allow it though...much of retread stories are told by those that don't know anything about them.

If done right a retread shouldn't be any different than a normal tire.

If a commercial vehicle is going to overload, then even a normal tire will fail.

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: jagec

Originally posted by: Throckmorton


Do they not use retreads on the front wheels?

IIRC they are not allowed to, at least not in all states.

I think most states do allow it though...much of retread stories are told by those that don't know anything about them.

If done right a retread shouldn't be any different than a normal tire.

If a commercial vehicle is going to overload, then even a normal tire will fail.

OK, I was wrong about the prohibition. However, commercial vehicles DO seem to suffer blowouts and leave crap all over the road much more frequently than private cars; whether this is due to retreads or overloading I don't know, but it happens! Maybe it's because of this:

Truck tire speed ratings
First, a little background. All truck tires have a speed rating in one form or another.

This dramatically came to light when some states raised highway speed limits to 70 and 75 mph for trucks.

When some individuals questioned the effect of higher sustained speeds on truck tires, they were surprised to find out that typical highway truck tires had a maximum speed limit of 65 mph under typical operating conditions.

Since the advent of higher truck speed limits on some highways, tire manufacturers have raised the speed limit on most highway truck tires to 75 miles per hour.

But don't look for any truck tire sidewall markings indicating speed limits. There aren't any on domestic manufactured tires.

These are recommendations, not laws:

INTERNATIONAL TIRE & RUBBER ASSOCIATION (ITRA)
RECOMMENDATIONS FOR
RETREADED AND REPAIRED TIRES
ON TRUCK STEER AXLE APPLICATION
Retreaded and/or repaired tires may be installed on truck steer axles
with GVW of 10,000 pounds or more, under the following conditions:
1. The truck operation is limited to short-haul. Short haul is
designated as not more than 60 miles, and, in no case should
the speed rating of the original tire be exceeded. Retreads
should not be used on the front wheels of buses.

2+ (a whole lot of crap on how many nail holes, whether any belts were removed, etc.)

 

[getbush]

I was following my girlfriend at night once. We were driving about an 1.5 hours to her moms. She kept calling me and saying her car was "making a noise". Well it's a 95 Aurora and it was about 20 degrees out and older frozen cars tend to make noises so I kind of brushed it off.

Long story short she drove for about 10-15 minutes on a flat front right tire at about 50-55 mph and didn't pull over until the outside edge of the tread surface completely seperated from the sidewall all around and was smacking the wheel well. The car was barely pulling to the right at that point according to her and it already had been due to needed an alignment.

So even if it does happen it's not like an imminent out of control 20 rollovers fireball of doom Ford Explorer incident like some might think.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: jagec

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: jagec

Originally posted by: Throckmorton


Do they not use retreads on the front wheels?

IIRC they are not allowed to, at least not in all states.

I think most states do allow it though...much of retread stories are told by those that don't know anything about them.

If done right a retread shouldn't be any different than a normal tire.

If a commercial vehicle is going to overload, then even a normal tire will fail.

OK, I was wrong about the prohibition. However, commercial vehicles DO seem to suffer blowouts and leave crap all over the road much more frequently than private cars; whether this is due to retreads or overloading I don't know, but it happens! Maybe it's because of this:

Truck tire speed ratings
First, a little background. All truck tires have a speed rating in one form or another.

This dramatically came to light when some states raised highway speed limits to 70 and 75 mph for trucks.

When some individuals questioned the effect of higher sustained speeds on truck tires, they were surprised to find out that typical highway truck tires had a maximum speed limit of 65 mph under typical operating conditions.

Since the advent of higher truck speed limits on some highways, tire manufacturers have raised the speed limit on most highway truck tires to 75 miles per hour.

But don't look for any truck tire sidewall markings indicating speed limits. There aren't any on domestic manufactured tires.

These are recommendations, not laws:

INTERNATIONAL TIRE & RUBBER ASSOCIATION (ITRA)
RECOMMENDATIONS FOR
RETREADED AND REPAIRED TIRES
ON TRUCK STEER AXLE APPLICATION
Retreaded and/or repaired tires may be installed on truck steer axles
with GVW of 10,000 pounds or more, under the following conditions:
1. The truck operation is limited to short-haul. Short haul is
designated as not more than 60 miles, and, in no case should
the speed rating of the original tire be exceeded. Retreads
should not be used on the front wheels of buses.

2+ (a whole lot of crap on how many nail holes, whether any belts were removed, etc.)

It's because of all the myths like the first post you made surrounded retreads. The reason for buses is more than likely due to the lawsuits that could then take place with everyone pointing at the retreads for blame.