What is so special about "Taiyo Yuden" CDRs?

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What makes them better to get over any of the other brand/types? I see the Hot Deals people mentioning how to spot the TY made CDR's...

I have choice between the Fuji TY CDRs, or Made in Taiwan Memorex, which to choose and why?

 

[murphy55d]

Honestly I've seen little difference in any 'name brand' CDRs. I won't buy the el cheapo never heard of them brand, but anything else, I've seen no difference.

I just bought a 50 spindle of Memorex which work fine, before that I was using Samsung. No differences that I can tell. Everything burnt and works just fine. (Using a Plextor 24x)

 

[bozo1]

From test reports at CDRInfo and some other sites a few years ago, they supposedly found Taiyo Yuden's to be the best as far as longevity and compatibility goes. Longevity as far as substrate degradation and compatibility as far as you being able to take them to other CDR drives as well as read-only and non-computer audio drives, especially car decks. Don't know if true or not, but that is where the following came from.

Also, back before the days of Burnproof/Justlink/whatever, they supposedly turned into coasters less often.

 

[BillClo]

I have a Plextor 24/10/40a writer, and have discovered the hard way that ONLY the Taiyo Yuden disks will make workable copies (backups) of games. ANY other brand I've tried has not worked. I'd heard that the Plextor was picky, but dismissed it as rumor.

I've tried Sony, Memorex, and several no-name brands, with no luck. These brands to work on Audio CDs, but very poorly on data cds.

I don't know why this is, but it is.

I did find a company that sells the Taiyo Yuden discs in less than 100 qty - I didn't want to buy several hundred only to find that they didn't work either.

http://store.yahoo.com/cdrsavings/jewelcases.html

 

[Jman13]

I have noticed a HUGE difference between Taiyo Yuden discs and others. For instance, TY discs are the only kind I've found that will play in my car CD player for hours without gaining static. Every other brand will start "scratching" after the deck heats up. TY discs do not...they play just like a pressed disc does.

Also, the Fujifilm 24x discs (which are TY) burn in my Lite-On 40x at 40x...with no errors, and they still maintain that flawless compatibility even when burned at 40x. I overburned an 80 min CD to nearly 82 minutes today, at 40x, and it played beautifully in my car CD player. My Imation 16x discs don't play for more than a half hour before scratching comes into play, and they can only burn at 24x max, before errors crop up.

I love TY discs...I have a 50 spindle now, but I may buy another 100 discs, since the Fuji discs are so hard to find, and I don't know of any other brand that you can buy in the store that is made by TY.

 

[IndyJaws]

I have to agree about TY discs playing in the car. I have an older Kenwood car deck that skips on other types of discs but TY play just fine. Also, my 40x burner will do 40x burning with TY discs, but can only do 24x with other brands. It doesn't cost more money than other brands if you find it on sale, so get them exclusively IMHO.

 

[Hanpan]

I have a Plextor 24/10/40a writer, and have discovered the hard way that ONLY the Taiyo Yuden disks will make workable copies (backups) of games. ANY other brand I've tried has not worked. I'd heard that the Plextor was picky, but dismissed it as rumor.

I've tried Sony, Memorex, and several no-name brands, with no luck. These brands to work on Audio CDs, but very poorly on data cds.

I don't know why this is, but it is.

I did find a company that sells the Taiyo Yuden discs in less than 100 qty - I didn't want to buy several hundred only to find that they didn't work either.

http://store.yahoo.com/cdrsavings/jewelcases.html

I hate to break it to you but most Sony cd-r's (at least all those I have come across) were made by TY.

 

[bonkers325]

Originally posted by: Jman13
I have noticed a HUGE difference between Taiyo Yuden discs and others. For instance, TY discs are the only kind I've found that will play in my car CD player for hours without gaining static. Every other brand will start "scratching" after the deck heats up. TY discs do not...they play just like a pressed disc does.

Also, the Fujifilm 24x discs (which are TY) burn in my Lite-On 40x at 40x...with no errors, and they still maintain that flawless compatibility even when burned at 40x. I overburned an 80 min CD to nearly 82 minutes today, at 40x, and it played beautifully in my car CD player. My Imation 16x discs don't play for more than a half hour before scratching comes into play, and they can only burn at 24x max, before errors crop up.

I love TY discs...I have a 50 spindle now, but I may buy another 100 discs, since the Fuji discs are so hard to find, and I don't know of any other brand that you can buy in the store that is made by TY.

tdk 32x

 

[Fulcrum]

What about Mitsui(Sp?) Gold/Silver? I use TY myself and they work great for me, but some people have told me that Mitsui is even better. Does anyone here have any info on Mitsui?

 

[McCarthy]

Mitsui is excellent, TY and Mits are both up there at about the same level

 

[Booster]

Honestly I've seen little difference in any 'name brand' CDRs. I won't buy the el cheapo never heard of them brand, but anything else, I've seen no difference.

Well, I have to agree. I use only Fullmark CDRs/RWs, b/c they're a little cheaper where I buy them and have worked flawlessly for me. Are these TYs?

 

[grrl]

I have burned dozens of old albums onto Memorex audio CDRs and some no name disks as well. ALL of them play on my CRDROM, Pioneer car unit and even cheap boomboxes.

 

[MasterHoss]

For data--> Taiyo Yuden
For audio --> Mitsubishi Chemical

That's what I do and use. I'm sure there's not a difference, but to me, things sound cleaner and clearer when I play back burned CDs on my Apline CDA-7875 car CD player using Mitsubishi Chemical CD-Rs (Verbatim DataLife Plus).

 

[neuralfx]

Taiyo Yuden invented the cd-r media technology ..
-neural

 

[LS20]

ive had ZERO problems (burning/playerbility) with all ofo the disks ive tried except for GQ. Burner is 16x Lite-On running Nero 5.5

ive tried:
CompUSA - 1 or 2 coaster
TDK - perfect
Fuji / Taiyo - perfect

suck:
GQ - ugly disks. lots of coasters.

i dislike the Fuji because of the swirly graphic... while the tdk is an attractive silver blank.. i can write on it

btw the CompUSA and TDK were both Ritek...GQ was Sony manuf.

 

[BillyBatson]

i have burned using fuji, tdk, sony, mitsumi, GQ, and several other brands including no names.. i have only EVER made 1 coaster and it was with a sony. I can't tell the different between any of these but then again my burner is a toshiba 4x cd-rw/8x DVD in my laptop LMAO.... but they all work. Last brand i bought was a spindle of 50 for $10 out the door, they are Primaris... for me these burn JUST as good as any of the the other brans but cheap brands such as these do have a drawback, if you are burning for friends, useless thigns, or audio cd's you will stop listneing to in a month these are greta, but i would NEVER burn anythign important such as backups onto no name brans cd-r's, they scratch easier and the top coating that your data is stored on scratches off easily or flakes off under heat!!!!

 

[skriefal]

most Sony cd-r's (at least all those I have come across) were made by TY

That might be location dependent. Around here (Minnesota) the vast majority of Sony CD-Rs have been Taiwan-made. I'll occasionally spot a TY-sourced Sony spindle or two, but it's quite rare.

Fuji has been the easiest way to obtain TY media over the last year or two. And I've recently noticed TY media appearing in Memorex spindles. They're still somewhat uncommon, though, since most stores still have a lot of old stock.

 

[Jman13]

I'd just like to clarify that I've never had any problems burning any sort of CD-R media, except at excessive speeds, where TY discs seem to be the only ones capable of >24x burning.

My Imation discs play fine in stereo CD players, my discman, my RioVolt, and my computer...but they get scratchy in my car CD player. TY discs are flawless in everything.

 

[Eug]

Mitsui are also excellent.

Noname brand or even cheaper name brand stuff have caused me problems. More frequent coasters, or 6 months down the line the discs simple don't work.

For throwaway CD-Rs, I buy el cheapo 16X CD-Rs and burn at 12-16X. If I burn at 24X they sometimes don't do so well (see above). OTOH, I can buy top tier brand name 16X CD-R and they burn great at 24X. Nonetheless for important data, just in case I will buy good name brand 24X media for burns at 24X, but that's $$$.

 

[BDawg]

For audio --> Mitsubishi Chemical

Where do you find these discs? My car CD player (Nakamichi CD-45z) is very picky with discs. The only thing I've found to work consistently is Maxell Audio 650 MB discs. No 700 MB discs work, and few 650 MB ones do.

 

[Eug]

Originally posted by: BDawg

For audio --> Mitsubishi Chemical

Where do you find these discs? My car CD player (Nakamichi CD-45z) is very picky with discs. The only thing I've found to work consistently is Maxell Audio 650 MB discs. No 700 MB discs work, and few 650 MB ones do.

Hmmm... Have you tried Mitsui silver or other silver discs? I have never found a car player not work with Mitsui silver, but then again most don't seem to be as picky as your Nakamichi.

 

[Hanpan]

most Sony cd-r's (at least all those I have come across) were made by TY

That might be location dependent. Around here (Minnesota) the vast majority of Sony CD-Rs have been Taiwan-made. I'll occasionally spot a TY-sourced Sony spindle or two, but it's quite rare.

Fuji has been the easiest way to obtain TY media over the last year or two. And I've recently noticed TY media appearing in Memorex spindles. They're still somewhat uncommon, though, since most stores still have a lot of old stock.

That may be true as I am in Canada.

 

[BDawg]

Have you tried Mitsui silver or other silver discs?

I've never seen these either...I've tried blue bottom, pale green bottom, and black bottom, but I've never seen these. Where do I buy them? Do they come in 650MB flavor? I think my car player has trouble tracking a 700MB CD.

 

[kgraeme]

I use TY in a robotic duplicator. I can go through thousands without a bad burn. I've tried others just to see but will get rejects occasionally. That's just my experience. Plus they come with a blank white surface to print anything on.

 

[Eug]

Originally posted by: BDawg

Have you tried Mitsui silver or other silver discs?

I've never seen these either...I've tried blue bottom, pale green bottom, and black bottom, but I've never seen these. Where do I buy them? Do they come in 650MB flavor? I think my car player has trouble tracking a 700MB CD.

Maybe my name for them is wrong but the discs are pale blue-green/teal in colour. I thought the name was silver though. Very common. Not all pale blue-green/teal media is Mitsui though. I have lots of noname brand non-Mitsui stuff that looks identical but is just crap. Most of the Mitsui stuff is actually 650 MB, but 700 MB is available and considerably higher cost.

Are you burning >74 min onto 700 discs? Have you tried just burning <74 min onto 700 MB discs? I can't see how the disc max size has anything to do with it, if you don't go beyond the 74 min mark.

If this is your problem, some commercial discs might not work either, since I've seen a couple of commercial CDs hit over 75 mins (which won't fit on a 650 MB CD-R).

P.S. Friends tell me the black ones are not good for compatibility, and I can confirm that dark green isn't very compatible either, even for name brand media. Blue is better, but not as good as that Mitsui media I'm talking about.