What is salaried-exempt ?

[TurtleMan]

I was reading one of the job description and it says,

"This position is categorized as professional and is considered to be salaried-exempt."


What is salaried-exempt means? is it that they don't set you a working hour or something ?

thanks !

 

[Drakkon]

salaried exempt prettymuch means they can work you crazy hours and do stuff thats not necessarily in your job description...your not like a normal 9-5er...they dont have to necessarily offer you the benefits of any of their regular employees and you get to work extra hours or be on call without any extra pay.

*depending on the company this may not be a bad thing, at my company it means i can work a 20hr week some weeks but then a 40-60 hr week others, work only M-Th, etc, and never take a pay cut, always getting the same paycheck.

 

[techs]

Basically means you are not covered by the wage/hour standards of the labor law. You are not eligble for overtime over 40 hours a week. Also, you can be required to work more than a 40 hour week, or literally any amount of hours a week. You can't quit and say the job wanted you to work 150 hours a week and then get unemployment. I also believe you are not entitled to a break after working 4 hours straight or a lunch break, etc.
Salaried/Exempt is usually reserved for management employees but many companies are now extending it to as many employees as possible to avoid the wage and hour laws.

 

[sygyzy]

I am not sure why they even call it salaried "exempt" when salaried is sufficient. And techs is correct. Many companies, especially in tech, make everyone salaried to avoid overtime. The best part is that, like techs said, is that it was originally designed for management and CEO's (who usually work lots of overtime). But now it's extended to everyone and nobody is calling them out on it. Wel, except for the EA suits.

 

[rahvin]

I just love that the two people that aren't exempt responded about what they think it means and they both pulled sh!t out of their asses.

It means quite simply no overtime, depending on the job that could mean no payment beyond 40 hours or no payment of time and half.

 

[TurtleMan]

ahh... seem like it could be good / bad thing, this company need someone live locally
so the person can be on-call all the time, and the pay doesn't seem that bad too.

Basically it just seem like my perivous job, where i work 45+ hour on salary, no benefits , we have our lunch break when the boss is hungry, etc...

Hmm.. for management level.. this is just a position for Tech Assistant...

 

[TurtleMan]

Originally posted by: rahvin
I just love that the two people that aren't exempt responded about what they think it means and they both pulled sh!t out of their asses.

It means quite simply no overtime, depending on the job that could mean no payment beyond 40 hours or no payment of time and half.

Really, then thats not that bad.. unless i have to work like 80+ hours.. and on call 24x7

 

[sygyzy]

Originally posted by: rahvin
I just love that the two people that aren't exempt responded about what they think it means and they both pulled sh!t out of their asses.

It means quite simply no overtime, depending on the job that could mean no payment beyond 40 hours or no payment of time and half.

That's funny, I've been salaried extempt in my previous and current job. But cheers to you rahvin.

 

[rahvin]

Originally posted by: sygyzy
That's funny, I've been salaried extempt in my previous and current job. But cheers to you rahvin.

I wasn't talking about you. Your post showed up seconds before mine did, jesus look at the post time.

Originally posted by: TurtleMan
Really, then thats not that bad.. unless i have to work like 80+ hours.. and on call 24x7

In the interview just make sure you discuss expectations and work requirements. If you don't mind a little unpaid overtime make that is clear but also make it clear XX hours a week (whatever your limit is) needs to be the exception, not the rule.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: sygyzy
I am not sure why they even call it salaried "exempt" when salaried is sufficient. And techs is correct. Many companies, especially in tech, make everyone salaried to avoid overtime. The best part is that, like techs said, is that it was originally designed for management and CEO's (who usually work lots of overtime). But now it's extended to everyone and nobody is calling them out on it. Wel, except for the EA suits.

They call it Salaried Exempt because there is a Salaried Non-Exempt grouping in the FLSA. Salaried Non-Exempt personnel are paid out at 40 hours per week minimum (i.e. if they work 35 hours, they still get 40 hours paid time) but they are also paid overtime at 0.5x what their hourly rate would be (salary amount divided by 40 hours).

It's just that almost no companies actually use that designation.

ZV

 

[tontod]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: sygyzy
I am not sure why they even call it salaried "exempt" when salaried is sufficient. And techs is correct. Many companies, especially in tech, make everyone salaried to avoid overtime. The best part is that, like techs said, is that it was originally designed for management and CEO's (who usually work lots of overtime). But now it's extended to everyone and nobody is calling them out on it. Wel, except for the EA suits.

They call it Salaried Exempt because there is a Salaried Non-Exempt grouping in the FLSA. Salaried Non-Exempt personnel are paid out at 40 hours per week minimum (i.e. if they work 35 hours, they still get 40 hours paid time) but they are also paid overtime at 0.5x what their hourly rate would be (salary amount divided by 40 hours).

It's just that almost no companies actually use that designation.

ZV

I work for Raytheon, they have Salaried non-exempt and my last company (Electric Boat) also had salaried non-exempt. Though, I would say their numbers are pretty small compared to salaried exempt.

 

[Al Neri]

Non exempt FTW!!!!!

 

[shopbruin]

i'm salaried non exempt and extremely happy with that. my last job was exempt and it nearly killed me around christmas.

 

[techs]

Originally posted by: rahvin
I just love that the two people that aren't exempt responded about what they think it means and they both pulled sh!t out of their asses.

It means quite simply no overtime, depending on the job that could mean no payment beyond 40 hours or no payment of time and half.

I just love it when people say things about how people pull sh!t out of their asses and then it turns out THEY are wrong.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: sygyzy
I am not sure why they even call it salaried "exempt" when salaried is sufficient. And techs is correct. Many companies, especially in tech, make everyone salaried to avoid overtime. The best part is that, like techs said, is that it was originally designed for management and CEO's (who usually work lots of overtime). But now it's extended to everyone and nobody is calling them out on it. Wel, except for the EA suits.

They call it Salaried Exempt because there is a Salaried Non-Exempt grouping in the FLSA. Salaried Non-Exempt personnel are paid out at 40 hours per week minimum (i.e. if they work 35 hours, they still get 40 hours paid time) but they are also paid overtime at 0.5x what their hourly rate would be (salary amount divided by 40 hours).

It's just that almost no companies actually use that designation.

ZV

No necessarily true. You can be salary non-exempt and still get overtime over 40 hours at 1x, 1.5x or 2x hourly rate.

 

[Drakkon]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: sygyzy
I am not sure why they even call it salaried "exempt" when salaried is sufficient. And techs is correct. Many companies, especially in tech, make everyone salaried to avoid overtime. The best part is that, like techs said, is that it was originally designed for management and CEO's (who usually work lots of overtime). But now it's extended to everyone and nobody is calling them out on it. Wel, except for the EA suits.

They call it Salaried Exempt because there is a Salaried Non-Exempt grouping in the FLSA. Salaried Non-Exempt personnel are paid out at 40 hours per week minimum (i.e. if they work 35 hours, they still get 40 hours paid time) but they are also paid overtime at 0.5x what their hourly rate would be (salary amount divided by 40 hours).

It's just that almost no companies actually use that designation.

ZV

No necessarily true. You can be salary non-exempt and still get overtime over 40 hours at 1x, 1.5x or 2x hourly rate.

contrary to the morons post above, i was not pulling out of my ass, i am actually a salary exempt employee.

We did have the policy in that past where if we worked over 120+ hrs in a 3 week period we would get overtime pay. Now its over 60 in a week period get extra day/s off. Thus i guess the definition of "exempt" varies by company, but overall its prettymuch is no overtime pay jsut overtime work.

 

[tontod]

I am salary exempt, but I do get paid overtime. At Raytheon, overtime for salaried exempt depends on the contract you're working on, for some contracts overtime is authorized, for others, its not. I have to work at least 44 hours to get paid OT for 4 hours.

 

[rahvin]

Originally posted by: Drakkon
they dont have to necessarily offer you the benefits of any of their regular employees

The above is where you were talking out your ass. Salaried, non salaried, exempt or non-exempt, if you work over 31 hours a week they have to offer benefits (that they give everyone else, with the exception of the trial period when you first start a job).

Originally posted by: techs
I just love it when people say things about how people pull sh!t out of their asses and then it turns out THEY are wrong.

You can't quit and say the job wanted you to work 150 hours a week and then get unemployment. I also believe you are not entitled to a break after working 4 hours straight or a lunch break, etc.

The above is where you were talking out your ass. You can't quit any job and get unemployment, you have to be fired (and that might limit the ability) or laid off. And just because you are salaried does not mean they can deny you breaks or lunch. Most people who are salaried don't mind skipping them because the work is rarely physical and as such the breaks aren't that big of a deal.

So in summary you were both talking out your asses.

 

[Specop 007]

Lets argue scemantics all day. Jeez people.

Simple answer, as was said, is you dont get overtime.

As for breaks, I thought those were mandated by federal law.

 

[WildHorse]