What is PCI-express ? DISPUTE HERE

JPB

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Ok, I am in a dispute about something. I have a friend telling me that the number 16 in PCI-e means pixel pipes. Basically saying that a 20 or 24 pipeline card will disable pipes to run at 16 pipes. Better yet, here is the thread. Now ill post a poll and link him to this. Here is the dispute and what he thinks is right.....Especially read the last few lines of the first paragraph.
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Quad processors will be entering the market within 6 months. If your looking to get a new power supply you might want to get a kilowatt(1000) power supply. Because so far everything power wise has went up significantly compared a year ago when 6800 series was running off of 350 watt supplies compared to 7800 or higher 500 watts. The motherboard you are looking at will last you for awhile and the momiter you are getting will help too. With moniters you need to look at the response time and refresh rates for better gameplay. 19" moniters are very good with resolutions so you should have no problems there. Vid cards by the time you go and get ready to buy them the prices should have dropped at least $100, to make way for the newer card series and you won't have to upgrade anything for at least 3 years execpt your motherboard right now the motherboard you are looking at supports upto 16 pixel pipes where as you graphics cards that your looking at support 24 pixel pipes. So that means your motherboard is and will be hindering your graphics cards from full performace.

not true by any means? if your motherboard can only run 16 pixel pipes and you vid card can run 24....motherboard is holding the vid card back from full potential. It's just like saying you can run ultra quality with 256 mb vid card. You can get some of the benifits of ultra quality but you can't get the right frame buffer without 512mb vid card. You need to read a little more on you mobo's, and vid cards. I will add more to this topic when I can show you what I am talking about. Do not discredit me when I know what I am talking about. here is an example you have a jar that holds 256 pennies and it bottle necks at the top a line is drawn at 256 mark but you know you can squeeze in more pennies but not 512 in something that is supposed 2 hold 256. With overclocking you can render more frames on ultra on a 256 card but no where near 512mb in the buffer. Same goes with motherboards you might be able to process more information with overclocking but you cannot reach the full potential of the vid card unless you have the right hardware. That is pure and simple logic. Explain with all the terms you want homie but your not right. 2+2=4 not whatever you want

What do you all make of this....?

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Edit: I asked him...if you are right, why does NV and ATI have vid cards with MORE than 16 pipes if the extra pipes could not be used.
 

nitromullet

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I bet they would hire him though... He makes a very good case, complete with analogies and examples, for a bunch of BS...
 

CKXP

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to make way for the newer card series and you won't have to upgrade anything for at least 3 years execpt your motherboard right now the motherboard you are looking at supports upto 16 pixel pipes where as you graphics cards that your looking at support 24 pixel pipes. So that means your motherboard is and will be hindering your graphics cards from full performace

funniest thing i read all day...thanks :laugh:

 

JPB

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I'm not trying to condone his information though, Im just trying to show him that he is not right. And in no way am I making fun of him. Just trying to show him the true details of the PCI-e
 

sodcha0s

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if your motherboard can only run 16 pixel pipes and you vid card can run 24....motherboard is holding the vid card back from full potential.

Is he really serious when he says this? Surely he's being sarcastic, he couldn't possibly be that, um...... misinformed.

You need to read a little more on you mobo's, and vid cards.

If he was serious about the previous statement, he should definitely take this advice himself.

Do not discredit me when I know what I am talking about.

Dude, you have absolutely NO FRIGGIN CLUE what you're talking about.

That is pure and simple logic.

Your logic is seriously flawed, and you should be beaten profusely about the head and neck for spewing such garbage as fact.

I think that about covers it.
 

imported_michaelpatrick33

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Actually they designed PCI-EX 16 lanes to better serve the Geek Squad Customer Compaint ... errr Complement Department. Since more than 16 pipes of da rock causes Geek Squad EMI anything above 16 is placed into a 32X PCI-ex pipe for SLI crack goodness. MMM 16 pipe X 2 = Morton Downey Jr. screaming at Martin Lawrence at a Whitney Houston concert err ... I am tired ... me go sleep.
 

Greenman

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You're friend knows NOTHING about computers. And to be honest, anyone who spouts off like an expert when they have no clue as too what they are talking about is a bit of an ass as well.
 

dawza

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Originally posted by: nitromullet
I bet they would hire him though... He makes a very good case, complete with analogies and examples, for a bunch of BS...


It is easy to come up with analogies and all sorts of fantastic statements when you believe your own dilusions, which this fellow clearly does.

I like how he tries to prop up his argument by warning the reader/OP not to discredit him because he knows what he is talking about, and follows up later by appealing to pure and simple logic.

I guess I should have splurged and purchased the x20 version of the A8N to match my 7800GT.
 

GundamSonicZeroX

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LOLZ. I just voted the first one on purpose just for hahas. "Does PCI-e x16 mean it can only support a card of 16 Pipelines ?" that's real BS. How do I know this? GeForce 6600GT.
 

Xcobra

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lol not even me that am a total dumbass at this graphix stuff would say something like that....what a dumbass
 

JPB

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Originally posted by: sodcha0s
if your motherboard can only run 16 pixel pipes and you vid card can run 24....motherboard is holding the vid card back from full potential.

Is he really serious when he says this? Surely he's being sarcastic, he couldn't possibly be that, um...... misinformed.
No sarcasm at all. He does believe this. Oh, and it he right about a 256MB video card cannot render Ultra Quality in Doom 3 or does it have to be a 512MB card ? I run D3 in Ultra constantly...game looks absolutely fantastic with no problems or hiccups.
 

F1shF4t

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ROFL

Hmm i wonder what he will say about AGP :laugh::laugh::laugh:

I dont even know where to begin lol

What that guy on, i mean and hes arguing like he knows it all, darn this is just too funny, stupidity overwhelming.