What is my laptops graphics equivalent to?

antyler

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My HP has the AMD 3500+ processor, 1GB of memory and the Radeon 200M card. I chose this laptop so id be able to play games on it. But, what is my card equivalent to card wise? is it ok? lame? I figure that this laptop has the same amount of memory and the same processor that a desktop would have, but would the laptop still not play games as well for some reason?

Here is what radeon said but im not sure exactly what it means lol.

Radeon® Xpress 200M is built on a .13-micron process with 350MHz graphics core speed, and 128-bit system memory interface ensuring best-in-class graphics performance with mobile applications. The built-in graphics deliver double the bandwidth of AGP 8X.
 

jonesthewine

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googling Radeon 200M gives 31,500 results...one should tell you what you want to know.

Did you really buy a laptop for gaming without researching the graphics chipset first? Processor and RAM are important, but the GPU is more Important for gaming.

It'll play games, but I doubt you'll get a lot of eye-candy of high frame rates .

Best way to find out is to install your games and see how they run.
 

BladeVenom

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The 200m is an integrated graphics chip. It's not going to be as good as a dedicated graphics card. It might be ok for older games, but I wouldn't expect much from it if you want to play new 3d games.
 

antyler

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Well i wanted the laptop, regardless pretty much. But it would be a nice benefit if it will play games. I have gotten some pretty good results so far. Ive been playing Men of Valor, which is pretty intensive. I went right to the RADEON sight and they claim this card is made for the "latest 3D games".
 

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350MHz core isn't too bad, but SMA will kill you... I expect about GF4 MX level performance or slightly better.
 

HomeAppraiser

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I just ordered a Compaq v2000z AMD Turion64 ML-28 and the Radeon Xpress 200M with 128mb of shared video memory from OfficeDepot ($484.99 after rebates). I checked the display at BestBuy first and their demo showed that you could play Star Wars Battlefront and some other 3d games with the ATI chipset. The 200M has native Direct X9 support, so it should render most new games correctly, just make sure you have plenty of system RAM and turn the game settings down if the frame rates aren't high enough. I am hoping for performance at least equivalent to an Nvidia 6200 card. I will let you know when I get mine in and upgrade the stock 1/256mb RAM with a 512 or 1Gig stick from Newegg.
 

fbrdphreak

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Get 1GB+ and a 7200RPM drive and you'll do ok in certain games. HL2/D3/Riddick will be a stretch. From a user's 3DM01 score, it was lower than GMA900 performance (which is a slideshow on HL2 at any res).
 

Fox5

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Radeon Xpress 200M is available in many configurations, at its best it's about X300SE performancee(9600SE), at it's worse it's about 1/3 of that. Typical configuration is about half to 2/3rds of X300SE.
 

Soccerman06

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I remember looking on the intraweb and seeing its about the equivalent of the 9200. The X300 is usually twice as fast as the onboard stuff.
 

antyler

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So half of 9200? eh thats not too bad. Ive been very pleased with this card so far, i have 1G of system memory, and i turned the graphics down a bit when i played MEN of VALOR, and it plays pretty well. Like i dont game that much, so i think im good, thanks for the help.
 

Jassi

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Originally posted by: fbrdphreak
Get 1GB+ and a 7200RPM drive and you'll do ok in certain games. HL2/D3/Riddick will be a stretch. From a user's 3DM01 score, it was lower than GMA900 performance (which is a slideshow on HL2 at any res).

I can play CS:S, HL:source and HL2:Source better than just fine with my Discrete 128 MB Xpress 200m. The only problem I have is that the GPU doesn't have the proper cooling needed and goes haywire on me once in a while.

antyler - I have the same laptop as you, the comparable card is ATI X300 but slightly less in performance.
 

antyler

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So you are saying, the xpress 200m will play some of the better games? I dont care if they look all "classy" i just like to play them without glitches. my cooling never gives problems, my laptop is a beast so it has plenty of cooling.
 

Soccerman06

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It will play games on minimal settings but dont think on raising the resolution above 10x7 on any newer games. It would become quite choppy
 

fbrdphreak

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Originally posted by: Jassi
Originally posted by: fbrdphreak
Get 1GB+ and a 7200RPM drive and you'll do ok in certain games. HL2/D3/Riddick will be a stretch. From a user's 3DM01 score, it was lower than GMA900 performance (which is a slideshow on HL2 at any res).

I can play CS:S, HL:source and HL2:Source better than just fine with my Discrete 128 MB Xpress 200m. The only problem I have is that the GPU doesn't have the proper cooling needed and goes haywire on me once in a while.

antyler - I have the same laptop as you, the comparable card is ATI X300 but slightly less in performance.
Jassi, whenever you get some time why don't you run the 3DMark suites and post the results+system specs in a new thread!
 

Jassi

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Originally posted by: fbrdphreak
Jassi, whenever you get some time why don't you run the 3DMark suites and post the results+system specs in a new thread!

Trust me, its no gaming beast. I'll be lucky to go past 700 on 3DMark 2005 but it plays CS:S good enough. I also played HL Source and HL2 DeathMatch without a glitch.

How can I get the full suite? I'd be happy to post the scores :)
 

antyler

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hmm it ran other games great, but its running Call of Duty, choppy for some reason. The game's requirements are not above what my system has, but its still choppy at the moment. I even tried putting the game's res way low, still choppy. Setting my windows res wont do anything to help will it?
 

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