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YOyoYOhowsDAjello

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I think it's nucleotides and not even close

EDIT: did I do this right?




~10^20 to ~10^25 stars?




6^9 nucleotides in a single cell of a human?
10^14 cells in a human body?

That already makes about 10^21 nucleotides in just one human?
 

sao123

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There are more stars in the universe than there are grains of sand on the earth.

im thinking stars.
 

Foxery

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Originally posted by: sao123
There are more stars in the universe than there are grains of sand on the earth.

im thinking stars.

That's only a figure of speech. All of the above are utterly ridiculous to try to count.
 

rezinn

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Yeah grains of sand are a lot smaller than nucleotides, and it's not like there are nucleotides in more places than there are sand.
 

bdude

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Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
I think it's nucleotides and not even close

EDIT: did I do this right?




~10^20 to ~10^25 stars?




6^9 nucleotides in a single cell of a human?
10^14 cells in a human body?

That already makes about 10^21 nucleotides in just one human?

ATOT has all the answers.
 

sao123

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Originally posted by: Foxery
Originally posted by: sao123
There are more stars in the universe than there are grains of sand on the earth.

im thinking stars.

That's only a figure of speech. All of the above are utterly ridiculous to try to count.

Count, yes.. but calculate and estimate...no!

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Never heard of Fermi Math?
 

911paramedic

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Universe is infinite, I'm going stars. (Chemistry is one of my fall classes, so I reserve the right to revise this statement.)
 

BlackTigers

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Yeah, if the universe is infinite (assuming the stars don't....stop), then wouldn't there be more stars than nucleotides?
 

YOyoYOhowsDAjello

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Do you guys with the infinite universe viewpoint believe in the big bang theory?

(as in, are there stars infinitely far away that were part of the big bang)
 

Bill Brasky

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3.1647 billion nucleotides in human genome.Text

~ 50 trillion cells per human.

6.684 billion 'umans on Earth.

1057642.74 billion nucleotides in humans. The rest of the damn wild life makes it all hard though.

I think I'll vote nucleotides for this one.
 

Jeff7

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Originally posted by: nick1985
One option is infinite, the other is finite. Hmm...tough call :roll:
There is a finite amount of matter in the Universe. The amount of space is effectively infinite though. Maybe.

I voted for nucleotides.

 

Jeff7

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Originally posted by: Cerpin Taxt
Originally posted by: Jeff7

There is a finite amount of matter in the Universe.
Citation, please?
My own deduction, as well as recollection of various things I've read over the years. They can see to the "edge" of the Universe, and there are estimates on the amount of matter in the Universe, as well as its diameter, and the number of stars within it.
Since there are numbers for these values, and not just 8 written there, I'd say that makes them count as finite values.


The Universe is a "bubble" of space, time, and energy, of a finite quantity. Now, there is the multiverse theory, which says that there may be other such bubbles beyond our own, and there may be an infinite number of them - or they too may be confined by whatever dimensions dictate their outward sizes.
But within our bubble, there is a finite amount of mass. There's just a really damn huge amount of it.

 

TridenT

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Originally posted by: Cerpin Taxt
Originally posted by: Jeff7

There is a finite amount of matter in the Universe.
Citation, please?

Do people out there actually believe there is an infinite amount of matter? If so, I would love documentation on why... I don't think matter just creates itself out of NOTHING. Nothing does not equal infinite matter to me. :-/
 

YOyoYOhowsDAjello

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Originally posted by: Zaitsev
3.1647 billion nucleotides in human genome.Text

~ 50 trillion cells per human.

6.684 billion 'umans on Earth.

1057642.74 billion nucleotides in humans. The rest of the damn wild life makes it all hard though.

I think I'll vote nucleotides for this one.

3 billion x 50 trillion x 7 billion = 1,000,000 billion? :confused:
 

DrPizza

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Originally posted by: 911paramedic
Universe is infinite, I'm going stars. (Chemistry is one of my fall classes, so I reserve the right to revise this statement.)

That post is so full of fail.

A. Current understanding & model of universe = universe is not infinite.
B. wtf does chemistry have to do with astronomy?
 

destrekor

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Originally posted by: Cerpin Taxt
Originally posted by: Jeff7

There is a finite amount of matter in the Universe.
Citation, please?

No citation needed. The universe, if following the big bang theory or any variation that is scientific, started with a finite amount of hydrogen and helium. Since matter is not created or destroyed, there is definitely a finite amount of matter, no matter how seemingly infinite the universe may seem.
Although, it's currently believed the edges of the universe are about 14billion light years across... something like that. Cannot recall or try to explain the deductions used to detail why it is, but the furthest light that has been identified is described as being from the horizon, which is 14billion l.y. away. iirc, that's supposed to be how old the universe is, because we can never see anything that lies further than the universe is old. So semi-correction... as I've kind of remembered the horizon... what lies beyond is unknown and may or may not be the fringes of the universe.

Anybody with more Astronomy under their belt than 2 college courses... help please. :p
 

DrPizza

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Originally posted by: Cerpin Taxt
Originally posted by: Jeff7

There is a finite amount of matter in the Universe.
Citation, please?

I would have thought that it was general knowledge; maybe not the number, but at least the fact the the number of stars is finite. Apparently not. Wow, hopefully you guys are still in high school or something.

entertaining Carl Sagan video

Roughly 10^21 to 10^22 stars.
(1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000)

Roughly 10^79 to 10^80 atoms in the universe
10^90 photons of light.
here's another source

For what it's worth, human's tiny brains are incapable of grasping just how large 10^80 is.