What is it about humans that makes some of us think shooting an animal with a gun is brave or noble or tough

dahunan

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Boasting about killing a wild animal with a gun seems retarded.. now if it was larger than you and you ran it down and killed it with your bare hands then you might have something worth talking about... but sniping an unsuspecting animal with a gun?? Whatever :confused:

http://www.wildhorseprairie.com/photo.htm << they all look so proud.. but what was their accomplishment?

BTW, to the people who claim it is hard to shoot a wild animal that is running.. are you saying that all of the animals in those pictures were running away from the hunter before he shot it .. or maybe he/she scared it first to make the fight more fair?



**I am not completely putting down hunting culture.. I just don't understand what there is to be proud of...

This thread was not thought out in advance.. I was looking for some pictures of something totally unrelated and came across the ones I posted..

What about Big Game Hunters? Those guys .. the ones who go out into Africa to kill a lion with a gun or a elephant or whatever.. I hate those people.. they don't do it for the meat.. they think they really accomplished something with their motorized vehicles and super rifles and trackers etc..
 

MiniDoom

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I?m not a hunter either, but try shooting s moving animal from a couple hundred yards away. I would bet most people couldn?t do it.
 

DougK62

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Using a firearm to shoot a target from a distance DOES take some skill, ya know.

 

Leros

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I feel you, I don't see the pleasure in it. It does take skill to hunt, but I don't see where the joy comes from. You don't see people at shooting ranges with big smiles on their face when they hit the target.

Maybe its some instinctual thing. You kill an animal, you get to eat that week. So that would be joyful. Meh, thats the only thing that makes sense to me.
 

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Being proud results from the satisfaction of their excitement, and this excitement of theirs is something that pertains to their interest. We couldn't just tell you that they're proud by killing animals. A large number of people still don't believe humans are animals too. Don't forget that these animals are killed for food. They aren't just shot and left there to rot. Hunting is very popular in the south, but as far as I can remember since I lived there, most people don't kill more then they really need.
 

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Originally posted by: DougK62
Using a firearm to shoot a target from a distance DOES take some skill, ya know.

QFT

I used to hunt when I was younger and you don't just walk into the woods and shoot something. There's a lot more to it.

The same thing can be said about any sport/hobby. You need to try it for you to really understand it.
 

Poulsonator

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It takes skill to aim and hit a moving target from far away, sure. But ultimately the gun's doing all of the work. Yay, I killed an unsuspecting animal with this mega-high powered rifle! I rule!

Something I read in a Sports Illustrated or something a while back:

"How can hunting be considered a sport when the animals don't even know they're playing?"
 

FoBoT

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when the world goes to crap and there is no food in a stores , don't go looking for help from a hunter, they'll remember this thread
 

Cerpin Taxt

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The pride hunters feel in harvesting game animals comes from seeing fruits borne of their own knowledge, intellect and effort. This is furthermore enhanced if the game animal that is taken qualifies as a trophy.

It's not as mindless as you'd think to hunt big game. Deer, for example, are extremely well-adapted to detect and elude dangers. Hunting them often requires great patience and diligence, not to mention specialized knowledge pertaining to the terrain, the hunted animal, and the rifle.
 

krunchykrome

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Originally posted by: dahunan
Boasting about killing a wild animal with a gun seems retarded.. now if it was larger than you and you ran it down and killed it with your bare hands then you might have something worth talking about... but sniping an unsuspecting animal with a gun?? Whatever "comfused;

http://www.wildhorseprairie.com/photo.htm << they all look so proud.. but what was their accomplishment?

**I am not completely putting down hunting culture.. I just don't understand what there is to be proud of...

Although I agree with you about the sport of hunting, this is the wrong forum to argue this. I made that mistake a few years ago arguing in a long thread with the majority of these members about hunting.
 

brandonbull

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Originally posted by: dahunan
Boasting about killing a wild animal with a gun seems retarded.. now if it was larger than you and you ran it down and killed it with your bare hands then you might have something worth talking about... but sniping an unsuspecting animal with a gun?? Whatever "comfused;

http://www.wildhorseprairie.com/photo.htm << they all look so proud.. but what was their accomplishment?

**I am not completely putting down hunting culture.. I just don't understand what there is to be proud of...

Considering most animals hunted have a size/speed/strength/natural weapon advantage over humans, what is the big deal?

 

dahunan

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Fine.. eat the meat.. I have NO Problem with that.. just .. why pose like you are something special because you killed the animal that never had a chance to defend itself..

This thread was not thought out in advance.. I was looking for some pictures of something totally unrelated and came across the ones I posted..

What about Big Game Hunters? Those guys .. the ones who go out into Africa to kill a lion with a gun or a elephant or whatever.. I hate those people.. they don't do it for the meat.. they think they really accomplished something with their motorized vehicles and super rifles and trackers etc..
 

Cerpin Taxt

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Originally posted by: Poulsonator
It takes skill to aim and hit a moving target from far away, sure. But ultimately the gun's doing all of the work.
That is an extremely naive way of looking at it. Hunting isn't just point and shoot. First, you have to FIND the animal, and even IF you manage to shoot it, you won't necessarily always kill it instantly. Then you have to track it. God forbid the animal makes its way down to a creek bed before it dies, because then you have to haul it out of there. Of course, field-dressing an animal isn't exactly a no-brainer either.


"How can hunting be considered a sport when the animals don't even know they're playing?"
In the wild, there are no periods, intermissions, or time-outs. The animals are ALWAYS playing the game.

 

dahunan

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Originally posted by: brandonbull
Originally posted by: dahunan
Boasting about killing a wild animal with a gun seems retarded.. now if it was larger than you and you ran it down and killed it with your bare hands then you might have something worth talking about... but sniping an unsuspecting animal with a gun?? Whatever "comfused;

http://www.wildhorseprairie.com/photo.htm << they all look so proud.. but what was their accomplishment?

**I am not completely putting down hunting culture.. I just don't understand what there is to be proud of...

Considering most animals hunted have a size/speed/strength/natural weapon advantage over humans, what is the big deal?

It should be obvious.. Kill .. go eat it.. no big deal..

kill it with a high powered rifle and powerful scope and make it a trophy = cold blooded and incomprehensible

BTW, to the people who claim it is hard to shoot a wild animal that is running.. are you saying that all of the animals in those pictures were running away from the hunter before he shot it .. or maybe he/she scared it first to make the fight more fair?
 

Garet Jax

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Originally posted by: rdubbz420
I?m not a hunter either, but try shooting s moving animal from a couple hundred yards away. I would bet most people couldn?t do it.

I bet you most hunters don't hit moving animals either.
 
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Originally posted by: brandonbull
Originally posted by: dahunan
Boasting about killing a wild animal with a gun seems retarded.. now if it was larger than you and you ran it down and killed it with your bare hands then you might have something worth talking about... but sniping an unsuspecting animal with a gun?? Whatever "comfused;

http://www.wildhorseprairie.com/photo.htm << they all look so proud.. but what was their accomplishment?

**I am not completely putting down hunting culture.. I just don't understand what there is to be proud of...

Considering most animals hunted have a size/speed/strength/natural weapon advantage over humans, what is the big deal?


Last time I checked, a deer doesn't have a high powered long ranged weapon. I respect bowhunters infinitely more than hunters with guns. What in the hell's going to happen when you miss the deer? It runs the hell away. You reload. bfd.
 

Garet Jax

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Originally posted by: DougK62
Using a firearm to shoot a target from a distance DOES take some skill, ya know.

Yes, but it take no more skill to hit an animal from afar than it does to hit a target from the same distance.
 

dahunan

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Originally posted by: Garth


"How can hunting be considered a sport when the animals don't even know they're playing?"
In the wild, there are no periods, intermissions, or time-outs. The animals are ALWAYS playing the game.

NOT :D .. they do not expect to be playing against high powered rifles.. do they?

 

SmoochyTX

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Why don't the animals have guns so they can protect themselves against the evil humans? It's not faaaaaiiiiiiirrrr.

:(
 

MiniDoom

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Originally posted by: Garet Jax
Originally posted by: rdubbz420
I?m not a hunter either, but try shooting s moving animal from a couple hundred yards away. I would bet most people couldn?t do it.

I bet you most hunters don't hit moving animals either.

FFS - I bet most people couldn't hit a dinner plate at 300 yards giving a rifle.
 

Zysoclaplem

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It's a sport. Like kicking a ball, except with bullets piercing through the skin of a living breathing thing. Cause there is nothing quite like taking the life of an animal, that never meant you any harm, just for fun.

 

dahunan

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Originally posted by: rdubbz420
Originally posted by: Garet Jax
Originally posted by: rdubbz420
I?m not a hunter either, but try shooting s moving animal from a couple hundred yards away. I would bet most people couldn?t do it.

I bet you most hunters don't hit moving animals either.

FFS - I bet most people couldn't hit a dinner plate at 300 yards giving a rifle.

Fine.. shoot a moving dinner plate and then go pose with the fragments :D