What is Fuzzy Logic? Im a newbie


Golden Member
Aug 24, 2000
It is a bios, overclocking and system, utility that runs in windows. It comes with MSI mobo's. I personally don't use it on my wifes system.


May 27, 2000
that was the answer you were looking for . heh
my winter break hasn't been long enough =)
or perhaps this?

this is kind of a bad explanation but.
currently microcompts operate on values that are two discrete states. either on or off.
for example, using binary logic, if you wrote a program to determine whether a student made an A in a class, you would do a check like:
was the student's grade higher than 90. and the one/and only answer to that question would either be a yes/no.
but, with fuzzy logic, there isn't discrete states, (1/0, or yes/no, on/off). there are varying degrees on on-ness/off-ness.
that same grading program could be implemented, like, if the student got an 87 in the class, that's 70% 1, or on/yes, and 30% 0, or off/no.

Its used a lot in anti-lock braking systems, to help the car determine when to apply the anti-lock systems, and other such applications

i hope that helped =)

Big Lar

Diamond Member
Oct 16, 1999
Ok, qmac gave us the technical side, heres the easy side= With fuzzy logic, you can leave your oc status onboard at boot, to the original mhz of your cpu, boot up at that mhz, and use the fuzzy logic software to overclock your system while allready in windows. I guess the fail-safe of the "logic" is that if you OC the system too high, you can just ctrl/alt/delete your way outta windows, and start fresh. At least thats my understanding of it, of which I read this at MSI's website I think/ or maybe off the installation cd... I don't use it, but was thinking about giving it a whirl :)


Oct 18, 1999
Fuzzy logic is a superset of conventional (Boolean) logic that has been
extended to handle the concept of partial truth -- truth values between
"completely true" and "completely false". It was introduced by Dr. Lotfi
Zadeh of UC/Berkeley in the 1960's as a means to model the uncertainty
of natural language. (Note: Lotfi, not Lofti, is the correct spelling
of his name.)

Zadeh says that rather than regarding fuzzy theory as a single theory, we
should regard the process of ``fuzzification'' as a methodology to
generalize ANY specific theory from a crisp (discrete) to a continuous
(fuzzy) form (see "extension principle" in [2]). Thus recently researchers
have also introduced "fuzzy calculus", "fuzzy differential equations",
and so on (see [7]).

Fuzzy Subsets:

Just as there is a strong relationship between Boolean logic and the
concept of a subset, there is a similar strong relationship between fuzzy
logic and fuzzy subset theory.

In classical set theory, a subset U of a set S can be defined as a
mapping from the elements of S to the elements of the set {0, 1},

U: S --> {0, 1}

This mapping may be represented as a set of ordered pairs, with exactly
one ordered pair present for each element of S. The first element of the
ordered pair is an element of the set S, and the second element is an
element of the set {0, 1}. The value zero is used to represent
non-membership, and the value one is used to represent membership. The
truth or falsity of the statement

x is in U

is determined by finding the ordered pair whose first element is x. The
statement is true if the second element of the ordered pair is 1, and the
statement is false if it is 0.

Similarly, a fuzzy subset F of a set S can be defined as a set of ordered
pairs, each with the first element from S, and the second element from
the interval [0,1], with exactly one ordered pair present for each
element of S. This defines a mapping between elements of the set S and
values in the interval [0,1]. The value zero is used to represent
complete non-membership, the value one is used to represent complete
membership, and values in between are used to represent intermediate
DEGREES OF MEMBERSHIP. The set S is referred to as the UNIVERSE OF
DISCOURSE for the fuzzy subset F. Frequently, the mapping is described
as a function, the MEMBERSHIP FUNCTION of F. The degree to which the

x is in F

is true is determined by finding the ordered pair whose first element is
x. The DEGREE OF TRUTH of the statement is the second element of the
ordered pair.

In practice, the terms "membership function" and fuzzy subset get used

That's a lot of mathematical baggage, so here's an example. Let's
talk about people and "tallness". In this case the set S (the
universe of discourse) is the set of people. Let's define a fuzzy
subset TALL, which will answer the question "to what degree is person
x tall?" Zadeh describes TALL as a LINGUISTIC VARIABLE, which
represents our cognitive category of "tallness". To each person in the
universe of discourse, we have to assign a degree of membership in the
fuzzy subset TALL. The easiest way to do this is with a membership
function based on the person's height.

tall(x) = { 0, if height(x) < 5 ft.,
(height(x)-5ft.)/2ft., if 5 ft. <= height (x) <= 7 ft.,
1, if height(x) > 7 ft. }

A graph of this looks like:

1.0 + +-------------------
| /
| /
0.5 + /
| /
| /
0.0 +-------------+-----+-------------------
| |
5.0 7.0

height, ft. ->

Given this definition, here are some example values:

Person Height degree of tallness
Billy 3' 2&quot; 0.00 [I think]
Yoke 5' 5&quot; 0.21
Drew 5' 9&quot; 0.38
Erik 5' 10&quot; 0.42
Mark 6' 1&quot; 0.54
Kareem 7' 2&quot; 1.00 [depends on who you ask]

Expressions like &quot;A is X&quot; can be interpreted as degrees of truth,
e.g., &quot;Drew is TALL&quot; = 0.38.

Note: Membership functions used in most applications almost never have as
simple a shape as tall(x). At minimum, they tend to be triangles pointing
up, and they can be much more complex than that. Also, the discussion
characterizes membership functions as if they always are based on a
single criterion, but this isn't always the case, although it is quite
common. One could, for example, want to have the membership function for
TALL depend on both a person's height and their age (he's tall for his
age). This is perfectly legitimate, and occasionally used in practice.
It's referred to as a two-dimensional membership function, or a &quot;fuzzy
relation&quot;. It's also possible to have even more criteria, or to have the
membership function depend on elements from two completely different
universes of discourse.

Logic Operations:

Now that we know what a statement like &quot;X is LOW&quot; means in fuzzy logic,
how do we interpret a statement like

X is LOW and Y is HIGH or (not Z is MEDIUM)

The standard definitions in fuzzy logic are:

truth (not x) = 1.0 - truth (x)
truth (x and y) = minimum (truth(x), truth(y))
truth (x or y) = maximum (truth(x), truth(y))

Some researchers in fuzzy logic have explored the use of other
interpretations of the AND and OR operations, but the definition for the
NOT operation seems to be safe.

Note that if you plug just the values zero and one into these
definitions, you get the same truth tables as you would expect from
conventional Boolean logic. This is known as the EXTENSION PRINCIPLE,
which states that the classical results of Boolean logic are recovered
from fuzzy logic operations when all fuzzy membership grades are
restricted to the traditional set {0, 1}. This effectively establishes
fuzzy subsets and logic as a true generalization of classical set theory
and logic. In fact, by this reasoning all crisp (traditional) subsets ARE
fuzzy subsets of this very special type; and there is no conflict between
fuzzy and crisp methods.

Some examples -- assume the same definition of TALL as above, and in addition,
assume that we have a fuzzy subset OLD defined by the membership function:

old (x) = { 0, if age(x) < 18 yr.
(age(x)-18 yr.)/42 yr., if 18 yr. <= age(x) <= 60 yr.
1, if age(x) > 60 yr. }

And for compactness, let

a = X is TALL and X is OLD
b = X is TALL or X is OLD
c = not (X is TALL)

Then we can compute the following values.

height age X is TALL X is OLD a b c
3' 2&quot; 65 0.00 1.00 0.00 1.00 1.00
5' 5&quot; 30 0.21 0.29 0.21 0.29 0.79
5' 9&quot; 27 0.38 0.21 0.21 0.38 0.62
5' 10&quot; 32 0.42 0.33 0.33 0.42 0.58
6' 1&quot; 31 0.54 0.31 0.31 0.54 0.46
7' 2&quot; 45 1.00 0.64 0.64 1.00 0.00
3' 4&quot; 4 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 1.00

For those of you who only grok the metric system, here's a dandy
little conversion table:

Feet+Inches = Meters
3' 2&quot; 0.9652
3' 4&quot; 1.0160
5' 5&quot; 1.6510
5' 9&quot; 1.7526
5' 10&quot; 1.7780
6' 1&quot; 1.8542
7' 2&quot; 2.1844

An excellent introductory article is:

Bezdek, James C, &quot;Fuzzy Models --- What Are They, and Why?&quot;, IEEE
Transactions on Fuzzy Systems, 1:1, pp. 1-6, 1993.

For more information on fuzzy logic operators, see:

Bandler, W., and Kohout, L.J., &quot;Fuzzy Power Sets and Fuzzy Implication
Operators&quot;, Fuzzy Sets and Systems 4:13-30, 1980.

Dubois, Didier, and Prade, H., &quot;A Class of Fuzzy Measures Based on
Triangle Inequalities&quot;, Int. J. Gen. Sys. 8.

The original papers on fuzzy logic include:

Zadeh, Lotfi, &quot;Fuzzy Sets,&quot; Information and Control 8:338-353, 1965.

Zadeh, Lotfi, &quot;Outline of a New Approach to the Analysis of Complex
Systems&quot;, IEEE Trans. on Sys., Man and Cyb. 3, 1973.

Zadeh, Lotfi, &quot;The Calculus of Fuzzy Restrictions&quot;, in Fuzzy Sets and
Applications to Cognitive and Decision Making Processes, edited
by L. A. Zadeh et. al., Academic Press, New York, 1975, pages 1-39.

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Senior member
Nov 30, 2000
Doh! And here I sit thinking it was something George W. Bush said... But anyways, it seems like everything is &quot;fuzzy&quot; with him. Saturday Night Live is gonna have a ton of fun with him during his Presidency.


Senior member
Dec 26, 2000
I thought Gore invented fuzzy logic. &quot;Universe of discourse&quot; Gotta try that one in coversation... Harddrive's making weird noises? Your universe of discourse must be out of alignment. Uhh.. Whack it couple times.


Diamond Member
Apr 18, 2000
Let me simplify your lives, recent MicroStar motherboards come with this software called &quot;FuzzyLogic3&quot;, its a program that helps you overclock. It overclocks the CPU using front side bus, 1MHz by 1MHz, until the system becomes unstable or unable to boot, it will clock back down to the previous stable setting. This helps the user in a way that you dont have to seek the usable front side bus on your own, helps newbies, and saves experts time.


Golden Member
Jun 14, 2000
Roguetech, that's wouldn't be using &quot;universe of discourse&quot; correctly.
In set theory the universe of discourse is the domain of the set. For examples the universe of discourse could be R the set of real numbers, N the set of natural numbers, or Z+ the set of positive integers.

In discrete logic the universe of discourse is the domain of the variable in a propositional function. Examples being the above set of people or the set of cities in the United States. EXISTS(x) (x is an element in the universe of discourse) population(x) > 100,000

My understanding of fuzzy logic would be something like the following:
ALL(x) (x is an element in the universe of discourse) { ( (polutation(x) = 0) -> (big = 0) ) ^ ( (population(x) <= 100,000) big = (population(x) / 100,000)) ) ^ ( (population(x) > 100,000) big = 1)

I have a feeling Oyeve has a better understanding of it than I do though.

I appologize for my syntax, it's a little difficult to write a V is a line through it for ALL or a backwards E for EXISTS. :)