What is driving the GOP's Anti-Obama hysteria?

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JEDIYoda

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As resistant people are to change, you are probably right.

obama stands on his own failed record. But that failure might not be enough for obama to be voted out.

Its like the bank bailout in 2008. The people that voted for the bank bailout were voted right back into office.

YES -- but IMO there is one issue that the Republican can use to defeat Obama -- National Pride!! They need to grab the Obama making apologies for the Koran burning then that all they need to talk about right through the elections!!
 

fskimospy

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Eskimospy is a reflection of the way most Progressives actually think...a myopic worldview of hyperbole, false dichotomies and "self-gratifying" condescension.

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/pseudointellectual
pseudointellectual

a pseudointellectual is someone dishonestly or insincerely using the language, style, or topics of an intellectual, but who lacks the goals, morals, or ability of a “genuine” intellectual. It is someone who acts pretentiously and wishes to win an argument or impress, rather than modestly trying to find the truth – a focus on surface and rhetoric over content. These often involve a superficial understanding of a subject and condescension to the audience, as well as possible self-delusion (not being consciously dishonest, but rather genuinely thinking themself to be behaving as a genuine intellectual despite their incompetence).

lol. I'm happy to see you thinking of me again, friend DSF.
 

fskimospy

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Left - communism, socialism

Right - Republic, Democracy

Can you provide me with a link from a single credible, nonpartisan source that will back up that definition?

Negative.

When an organization or government tries to limit civil liberties, they are left leaning.

Can you provide me with a link from a single credible, nonpartisan source that will back up that definition?
 

monovillage

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2 opposite things. Democrats are not progressive. Perhaps you are under the impression that repeating a lie often enough will make it true.

Vaginal probes for all women! The leftists are for oppression!

Wars and occupations! Tax cuts for the rich! Leftists are letting more people die in our occupations!

yeah, yeah, there is no left, only shadow knows left, everyone oppresses shadow. Thanks for posting.
 

woolfe9999

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Did you sleep through the government classes in school?

political_spectrum_left_right_wing.gif

I most certainly didn't sleep through government classes nor through the 35 units of poly sci I took in college. But nothing like that chart was presented. Please provide a link to where you got it from.

And try looking at some neutral sources.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservatism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism

The wiki definitions are broad, long term historic definitions. They are less specific than we might define them in a particular temporal-geopolitical context, like 2012 America. If you want to know what positions conservatives and liberals take in America today, you can look at the official party platforms of the dem and rep parties for starters.

- wolf
 
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crashtestdummy

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Did you sleep through the government classes in school?

political_spectrum_left_right_wing.gif

What a horrifyingly wrong chart. A far better spectrum is something like a Nolan Chart (made by a libertarian, mind you!) If you want to play around with a bunch of other views, though, look around here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_spectrum

Note a little ways down, where fascism is far right and authoritarian, while communism is far left and authoritarian.
 

fskimospy

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I most certainly didn't sleep through government classes nor through the 35 units of poly sci I took in college. But nothing like that chart was presented. Please provide a link to where you got it from.

And try looking at some neutral sources.

Here's where it's from.

http://woody.typepad.com/

The website is basically what you would expect.
 

BoberFett

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No, there is. We have one socialist senator. Please educate yourself.

This country has one lone leftist in a sea of right-wingers, but yet we still have Social Security and Medicare. I wonder how that happened?

Black and white thinking is for children and the mentally deficient. Which are you?
 

fskimospy

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You're conceit and incessant condescension are hard to overlook for long stretches of time.

I'm so sorry to hear that, rest assured that I will endeavor to post more appeals to false equivalence as well as poorly thought out accusations of hypocrisy in your esteemed tradition. The last thing that I would want is for your forum reading experience to be unpleasant.

Please know that you will be in my thoughts.
 

shadow9d9

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This country has one lone leftist in a sea of right-wingers, but yet we still have Social Security and Medicare. I wonder how that happened?

Black and white thinking is for children and the mentally deficient. Which are you?

A disaster that was the Great Depression and people of a different time.
 

BoberFett

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Left= pedophiles, rapists, dictatorships, alien invaders.

Right= patriots, philanthropists, models of society, gods of men.

Don't get all high and mighty, spanky. To most of the "liberals" around here:

Left = beloved heros of the downtrooden, friend to the common man, paragons of virtue

Right = hobo killers, children haters, puppy kickers, satan incarnate

Your side is just as cartoonish as the right in your views of all dissenting opinion.


"Liberal": I feel that a woman should have the right to choose, because it's her body that's affected by pregnancy.
"Right winger": I feel that at some point prior to birth it's not just a fetus, but a human being that should be given the same constitutional protections as a baby.
"Liberal": YOU HATE WOMEN AND WANT ALL OF THEM TO DIE YOU BIBLE THUMPING FASCIST!!!!!!
 

BoberFett

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A disaster that was the Great Depression and people of a different time.

With all those non-leftists in congress (all but your one lone socialist) you'd think they'd have been able to get rid of those expensive programs.

Or maybe Washington isn't as right-wing as you claim it is, tin-foiler.
 

shadow9d9

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Don't get all high and mighty, spanky. To most of the "liberals" around here:

Left = beloved heros of the downtrooden, friend to the common man, paragons of virtue

Right = hobo killers, children haters, puppy kickers, satan incarnate

Your side is just as cartoonish as the right in your views of all dissenting opinion.


"Liberal": I feel that a woman should have the right to choose, because it's her body that's affected by pregnancy.
"Right winger": I feel that at some point prior to birth it's not just a fetus, but a human being that should be given the same constitutional protections as a baby.
"Liberal": YOU HATE WOMEN AND WANT ALL OF THEM TO DIE YOU BIBLE THUMPING FASCIST!!!!!!

Except that people are only "left" if they disagree with people here. That doesn't make them "left."

There is one left senator and hasn't been any "left" legislation in 20+ years...

Vaginal probes, restricting abortion, and other bedroom restrictions are ACTUAL legislation passed. Wars and endless occupations ACTUALLY happened.

Show some proof of "left" legislation pleased.
 

shadow9d9

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With all those non-leftists in congress (all but your one lone socialist) you'd think they'd have been able to get rid of those expensive programs.

Or maybe Washington isn't as right-wing as you claim it is, tin-foiler.

Why would they get rid of popular programs? What makes it "left" to support the elderly when our for profit organizations refuse to cover them for healthcare? Should we let them die in the street? Hell, the republicans have not legitimately tried to remove them... they actually EXPANDED medicare just a few years ago!
 

zsdersw

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What's driving the GOP's anti-Obama hysteria?

It is all of the following:

- The same thing that drove the Democrat's anti-Bush hysteria
- The same thing that led Wile E. Coyote to chase the Road Runner
- The 2nd Law of Thermodynamics
 

shadow9d9

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What's driving the GOP's anti-Obama hysteria?

It is all of the following:

- The same thing that drove the Democrat's anti-Bush hysteria
- The same thing that led Wile E. Coyote to chase the Road Runner
- The 2nd Law of Thermodynamics

Except it isn't the "same." 2 wars while cutting taxes on rich, spying without a warrant on americans, going into debt during good economy... show me how that is the "same" as anything Obama pushed.