What is driving the GOP's Anti-Obama hysteria?

[BladeVenom]

The GOP is playing nice compared to how the Democrats treated Bush.

That despite Obama being a worse President. The deficit is worse under Obama, and more soldiers are dying in Afghanistan under Obama.

 

[shadow9d9]

There are a number of issues, primarily relating to foreign policy and national security, where both parties substantially agree. The two parties in no way agree on taxation, regulation, or the role of government however due to the modest leftward move of the Democratic party and the radicalization of the Republican party.

The positions of the median Republican HOR member would be all but unrecognizable to a Republican from 40 years ago.

Move left of the democratic party? How so? By using 20 year old republican ideas for healthcare reform or by continuing to occupy foreign countries and spy on american citizens?

I can't think of a single leftlike bill that has come out of congress in the last decade...

 

[Texashiker]

I can't think of a single leftlike bill that has come out of congress in the last decade...

You would not call the patriot act a left leaning bill?

What about holding "suspected" terrorist without due process, would that be left leaning?

The use of torture, would that be right or left leaning?

The majority of the stuff coming out of congress for the past decade has been very left leaning.

 

[fskimospy]

The GOP is playing nice compared to how the Democrats treated Bush.

That despite Obama being a worse President. The deficit is worse under Obama, and more soldiers are dying in Afghanistan under Obama.

lol. The Democrats were not worse to Bush, no.

I do love the selective fact usage though. The fact that you chose them like that means you actually do know better, but have deliberately decided to avoid inconvenient facts. I commend your commitment to delusion.

 

[fskimospy]

You would not call the patriot act a left leaning bill?

What about holding "suspected" terrorist without due process, would that be left leaning?

The majority of the stuff coming out of congress for the past decade has been very left leaning.

Of course the Patriot Act or lack of due process are not 'left leaning'. They are authoritarian leaning, which has nothing to do with left or right. The left is not for more government control of everything any more than the right is for less government control of everything. That's why the political compass generally has 2 axis, one for economics and one for civil liberties.

 

[Texashiker]

Of course the Patriot Act or lack of due process are not 'left leaning'. They are authoritarian leaning, which has nothing to do with left or right.

We have different opinions on the meaning of left and right.

 

[Jaskalas]

It's terrifying that one of America's two major political parties has basically gone insane.

Push everyone left, anyone that disagrees is insane. Lovely tact you've got there.

 

[etrigan420]

You would not call the patriot act a left leaning bill?

What about holding "suspected" terrorist without due process, would that be left leaning?

The use of torture, would that be right or left leaning?

The majority of the stuff coming out of congress for the past decade has been very left leaning.

Ummmm, no. Incorrect on all counts. That's actually kind of impressive, in a sad, pitiful, "not-really-impressive" kind of way.

It's a bit disingenuous to shift the fulcrum all the way to the right, and then claim that every evil perpetrated is "left-leaning".

The ACA *is* "left leaning", but not very far.

 

[fskimospy]

We have different opinions on the meaning of left and right.

I'm just telling you the meanings that other people use so that you don't confuse them when you talk. Leftism generally refers to economic policies, not libertarian/authoritarian policies.

Both left and right wing parties frequently seek to restrict civil liberties, their targets simply differ sometimes.

 

[Texashiker]

I'm just telling you the meanings that other people use so that you don't confuse them when you talk. Leftism generally refers to economic policies, not libertarian/authoritarian policies.

Left - communism, socialism

Right - Republic, Democracy

Both left and right wing parties frequently seek to restrict civil liberties,

Negative.

When an organization or government tries to limit civil liberties, they are left leaning.

 

[shadow9d9]

The GOP is playing nice compared to how the Democrats treated Bush.

That despite Obama being a worse President. The deficit is worse under Obama, and more soldiers are dying in Afghanistan under Obama.

So despite starting 2 wars and endless occupations, spying on american citizens, running up the deficit in a good economy, deregulating everything, which includes companies like BP who destroyed the gulf...

It is somehow Obama's fault that people are dieing in the hellhole that is afghanistan, where we should never have been to begin with and there is more debt after the economic collapse that happened under Bush's watch?

Makes sense!

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Push everyone left, anyone that disagrees is insane. Lovely tact you've got there.

Eskimospy is a reflection of the way most Progressives actually think...a myopic worldview of hyperbole, false dichotomies and "self-gratifying" condescension.

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/pseudointellectual
pseudointellectual

a pseudointellectual is someone dishonestly or insincerely using the language, style, or topics of an intellectual, but who lacks the goals, morals, or ability of a “genuine” intellectual. It is someone who acts pretentiously and wishes to win an argument or impress, rather than modestly trying to find the truth – a focus on surface and rhetoric over content. These often involve a superficial understanding of a subject and condescension to the audience, as well as possible self-delusion (not being consciously dishonest, but rather genuinely thinking themself to be behaving as a genuine intellectual despite their incompetence).

 

[OrByte]

Left - communism, socialism

Right - Republic, Democracy




Negative.

When an organization or government tries to limit civil liberties, they are left leaning.

lol!!

like when the state of Virginia wants to limit the number of abortions so they introduce a bill that requires a costly and intrusive form of "examination" for women intended to discourage going through with the procedure...

yea..thats "left leaning" thinking right there!

 

[shadow9d9]

Left - communism, socialism

Right - Republic, Democracy




Negative.

When an organization or government tries to limit civil liberties, they are left leaning.

Communism has never and will never exist. Dictatorships or oligarchies under the pseudonym of communism, absolutely.

Right is dictatorship and fascism btw, which are what the republicans and even the democrats(middle right) continue to take us.

Negative. When a government tries to limit or control the people, they are right leaning(conctraception, abortion, everything else in the bedroom, giving power to corporations at the expense of people).

 

[shadow9d9]

Eskimospy is a reflection of what most Progressives actually think...a myopic worldview of hyperbole, false dichotomies and "self-gratifying" condescension.

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/pseudointellectual
pseudointellectual

a pseudointellectual is someone dishonestly or insincerely using the language, style, or topics of an intellectual, but who lacks the goals, morals, or ability of a “genuine” intellectual. It is someone who acts pretentiously and wishes to win an argument or impress, rather than modestly trying to find the truth – a focus on surface and rhetoric over content. These often involve a superficial understanding of a subject and condescension to the audience, as well as possible self-delusion (not being consciously dishonest, but rather genuinely thinking themself to be behaving as a genuine intellectual despite their incompetence).

Considering there hasn't been a "left" member of congress outside one lone senator and now having the democrats use a 20 year old republican idea for healthcare, abandoning their old progressive one.. is somehow moving left!

 

[shadow9d9]

Push everyone left, anyone that disagrees is insane. Lovely tact you've got there.

Projection of your own weaknesses. Typical responses.

More corporate power, less regulations, tanking the world economy for profit by disabling old regulation(glass steagull), cutting taxes for the rich while invading and occupying foreign countries(war 24/7), spying on american citizens, reducing access to birth control, introducing draconian measures to push a religious agenda(abortion)... Oh yeah, everyone is going left that disagrees!

 

[Ldir]

The GOP is playing nice compared to how the Democrats treated Bush.

That despite Obama being a worse President. The deficit is worse under Obama, and more soldiers are dying in Afghanistan under Obama.

You would not call the patriot act a left leaning bill?

What about holding "suspected" terrorist without due process, would that be left leaning?

The use of torture, would that be right or left leaning?

The majority of the stuff coming out of congress for the past decade has been very left leaning.

Today must be opposites day. You both have it backwards.

 

[monovillage]

Push everyone left, anyone that disagrees is insane. Lovely tact you've got there.

He uses it all the time, nothing new.

 

[Texashiker]

Today must be opposites day. You both have it backwards.

Did you sleep through the government classes in school?

 

[monovillage]

Eskimospy is a reflection of the way most Progressives actually think...a myopic worldview of hyperbole, false dichotomies and "self-gratifying" condescension.

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/pseudointellectual
pseudointellectual

a pseudointellectual is someone dishonestly or insincerely using the language, style, or topics of an intellectual, but who lacks the goals, morals, or ability of a “genuine” intellectual. It is someone who acts pretentiously and wishes to win an argument or impress, rather than modestly trying to find the truth – a focus on surface and rhetoric over content. These often involve a superficial understanding of a subject and condescension to the audience, as well as possible self-delusion (not being consciously dishonest, but rather genuinely thinking themself to be behaving as a genuine intellectual despite their incompetence).

Not just progressives, but Democratic Party shills.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Nobody has to drive the Anti-Obama hysteria, he is doing a good job all by himself.

Actually the Republicans are desperate. There is no current candidate who one on one can beat Obama......

I am not saying that there is no Republican who can beat Obama.......but if the Republicans were smart there is one issue that they quite easily can rally the nation around in order to beat Obama.....National Pride!! They need to grab the Obama making apologies for the Koran burning -- even though in my opinion that should not have been done. There are correct ways to get rid of the Koran without in the Mulim`s eyes desecrating it.

As I see it that is the only issue that can beat Obama.......
There are still enough people on both sides of the fence who do not agree with Obama apologizing!!

You never hear an apology from the Muslims when the Bible or the Torah is desecrated...
but thats OK.....some would claim the United States is not a Christian nation so it doesn`t matter.........

 

[Ldir]

Did you sleep through the government classes in school?

You get that from Fox?

 

[Texashiker]

Actually the Republicans are desperate. There is no current candidate who one on one can beat Obama......

As resistant people are to change, you are probably right.

obama stands on his own failed record. But that failure might not be enough for obama to be voted out.

Its like the bank bailout in 2008. The people that voted for the bank bailout were voted right back into office.

 

[soundforbjt]

You get that from Fox?

Nah, he got it from a wingnut blogger, practically the same thing though.

 

[shadow9d9]

Not just progressives, but Democratic Party shills.

2 opposite things. Democrats are not progressive. Perhaps you are under the impression that repeating a lie often enough will make it true.

Vaginal probes for all women! The leftists are for oppression!

Wars and occupations! Tax cuts for the rich! Leftists are letting more people die in our occupations!