What is Bernie trying to accomplish by posting opinion article on Fox News website?

[Amol S.]

I was surprised to see Bernie Sanders who is a left leaning politician, to have posted an article on Fox News. Why does he think Fox fanatics will look at his opinion, when they have been brainwashed by Trump to belive Burnie as a Communist. Is Burnie now desperate to get more supporters?

Kellogg's strike: Workers must get our support

I will be in Battle Creek, Michigan this Friday with workers who have been on strike for over two months against Kellogg’s. Let me tell you why I’m going.

www.foxnews.com

 

[sandorski]

Why does it matter? Fox News viewers may or may not be persuadable, but never speaking to them certainly is not persuadable.

 

[dank69]

I was surprised to see Bernie Sanders who is a left leaning politician, to have posted an article on Fox News. Why does he think Fox fanatics will look at his opinion, when they have been brainwashed by Trump to belive Burnie as a Communist. Is Burnie now desperate to get more supporters?

Kellogg's strike: Workers must get our support

I will be in Battle Creek, Michigan this Friday with workers who have been on strike for over two months against Kellogg’s. Let me tell you why I’m going.

www.foxnews.com

The biggest problem with Fox is not that they lie, it that they shield their viewers as much as possible from the truth. Bernie understands this. Not sure how effective it will be though, as I seem to remember studies showing that inconvenient facts tend to have the opposite effect on conservatives.

 

[HurleyBird]

Good. Preaching to the choir never yields anything of value, but challenging beliefs can lead to growth.

The right is in a bit of flux right now, and there are plausible paths for the current skepticism against elites to develop into class-conscious economic policy, skepticism of the FBI developing into supporting criminal justice reform, and skepticism of the CIA leading to less support for world policing. None of this has solidified, and may never solidify, but Bernie going on Fox news talking about class issues is a nudge in the right direction.

 

[nOOky]

The biggest problem with Fox is not that they lie, it that they shield their viewers as much as possible from the truth. Bernie understands this. Not sure how effective it will be though, as I seem to remember studies showing that inconvenient facts tend to have the opposite effect on conservatives.

Recall the Mayor Pete video from Fox news where he discusses abortion. The way he explains it to the audience and their response means that if they were indeed exposed to the truth, through logical thinking yes things might be a lot different for that party. Not holding my breath though.

 

[Moonbeam]

The enemy of my enemy…………

 

[GodisanAtheist]

Frankly, Bernie is taking the right approach here. You cannot allow yourself to be the "other" in the minds of some people. As soon as you are, logic flies out the window and it doesn't matter how close you may be on a whole host of issues, if you're not part of the tribe you're the enemy.

Think of gay acceptance and gay marriage. Hugely unpopular for a long time, but as soon as people started to see that "the gays" were a part of their own tribe, opposition swiftly collapsed with no real meaningful opposition left on a state or national stage (and in many ways, across the world with notable exceptions). "When people recognize that its their son, daughter, brother, or sister and that these are the same people they've always known, it will be impossible to hate them" Not saying that applies to everyone, of course, but broadly it appears to be true.

The other day I saw an old man and old woman walking down the street in front of my house (I was working under one of my cars). The woman says something like "I like Jimmy, but how is Johnny supposed to live a happy life with him?" and the old man stopped her for a second and said "Its legal for them to get married now, Edith. Besides, if it makes Johnny happy then who am I to complain"

This is what modern liberals and modern democrats cannot seem to wrap their heads around. Every issue is a societal one, every solution is a moral or spirtual one. It all comes off a heady and a bit in the clouds. The messaging doesn't seem to come down to the individual level anymore, how will this affect or benefit your life on the day to day. Make it real and personal for people.

Bernie isn't changing any minds with this, but if he gets a couple people to stop and think "Its communism alright! But they might not be evil, and it looks like their heart is in the right place..." then its a step in the right direction. Its not all changing overnight.

 

[MrSquished]

Frankly, Bernie is taking the right approach here. You cannot allow yourself to be the "other" in the minds of some people. As soon as you are, logic flies out the window and it doesn't matter how close you may be on a whole host of issues, if you're not part of the tribe you're the enemy.

Think of gay acceptance and gay marriage. Hugely unpopular for a long time, but as soon as people started to see that "the gays" were a part of their own tribe, opposition swiftly collapsed with no real meaningful opposition left on a state or national stage (and in many ways, across the world with notable exceptions). "When people recognize that its their son, daughter, brother, or sister and that these are the same people they've always known, it will be impossible to hate them" Not saying that applies to everyone, of course, but broadly it appears to be true.

The other day I saw an old man and old woman walking down the street in front of my house (I was working under one of my cars). The woman says something like "I like Jimmy, but how is Johnny supposed to live a happy life with him?" and the old man stopped her for a second and said "Its legal for them to get married now, Edith. Besides, if it makes Johnny happy then who am I to complain"

This is what modern liberals and modern democrats cannot seem to wrap their heads around. Every issue is a societal one, every solution is a moral or spirtual one. It all comes off a heady and a bit in the clouds. The messaging doesn't seem to come down to the individual level anymore, how will this affect or benefit your life on the day to day. Make it real and personal for people.

Bernie isn't changing any minds with this, but if he gets a couple people to stop and think "Its communism alright! But they might not be evil, and it looks like their heart is in the right place..." then its a step in the right direction. Its not all changing overnight.

Bernie should do this, but the time to wait for conservatives to become sane is over. Democracy is about to end. For decades Democrats have been trying to reach across the aisle and we get Trump, more Confederate flags, and an attempted coup which they are setting up to be successful next time.

I hate to break your hopeful thoughts, but while Democrats are reaching across the aisle like the naive people they have become, the conservatives are just going to take the country chanting let's go Brandon while Bernie tries to tell them that then having healthcare and better wages is good for them.

 

[nakedfrog]

Republicans like portray themselves as being the class of "the working man" (don't tell me, I know), and seeing that Sanders is (once again) walking the walk could get through to someone. It's like spam emails, they send out enough, they'll get a couple people to click through and buy the thing. If he can reach any of them, they might be able to pass it on.

 

[gothuevos]

Bernie should do this, but the time to wait for conservatives to become sane is over. Democracy is about to end. For decades Democrats have been trying to reach across the aisle and we get Trump, more Confederate flags, and an attempted coup which they are setting up to be successful next time.

I hate to break your hopeful thoughts, but while Democrats are reaching across the aisle like the naive people they have become, the conservatives are just going to take the country chanting let's go Brandon while Bernie tries to tell them that then having healthcare and better wages is good for them.

This.

It's already over, and the fact that some of you think Bernie writing a puff piece about worker's rights on Fox News is going to make us one big happy family is incredibly depressing.

 

[ivwshane]

I read somewhere that a lot of trump supporters and q anon folks were once Bernie supporters so maybe they still listen to him. How could it hurt?

 

[Amol S.]

I read somewhere that a lot of trump supporters and q anon folks were once Bernie supporters so maybe they still listen to him. How could it hurt?

Maybe Democrats could have won 2016 if Hillary lost the primary and Bernie won.

 

[ivwshane]

Maybe Democrats could have won 2016 if Hillary lost the primary and Bernie won.

You kinda have to win the primary in order to imagine that scenario don’t you?

 

[Moonbeam]

You kinda have to win the primary in order to imagine that scenario don’t you?

This is the sim that is being run by Hillary supporters claiming things would have gone better if Sanders had lost.

 

[sandorski]

This.

It's already over, and the fact that some of you think Bernie writing a puff piece about worker's rights on Fox News is going to make us one big happy family is incredibly depressing.

Who was that? There was no reason for Bernie not to publish this on Fox and it gives the possibility to reach out at the same time. There are no guarantees of support, but there is no reason not to make the attempt.

 

[Leeea]

Sometimes, it is important to try.

 

[hal2kilo]

This.

It's already over, and the fact that some of you think Bernie writing a puff piece about worker's rights on Fox News is going to make us one big happy family is incredibly depressing.

Why even bother posting about it then. Doom and gloom.

 

[HomerJS]

I was surprised to see Bernie Sanders who is a left leaning politician, to have posted an article on Fox News. Why does he think Fox fanatics will look at his opinion, when they have been brainwashed by Trump to belive Burnie as a Communist. Is Burnie now desperate to get more supporters?

Kellogg's strike: Workers must get our support

I will be in Battle Creek, Michigan this Friday with workers who have been on strike for over two months against Kellogg’s. Let me tell you why I’m going.

www.foxnews.com

Best quote I heard when it comes to politics.

"You have to show up"

 

[MichaelMay]

Maybe Democrats could have won 2016 if Hillary lost the primary and Bernie won.

The Bernie bro's will do anything for Bernie except vote. They were on board with the "voter fraud" before it was popular and couldn't figure out why he didn't win in 2016 or 2020.

Bernie has a quite damning past with praising the USSR over the US which is why he spent his honeymoon in Moscow as well which would scare a LOT of undecided voters away.

 

[nakedfrog]

The Bernie bro's will do anything for Bernie except vote. They were on board with the "voter fraud" before it was popular and couldn't figure out why he didn't win in 2016 or 2020.

Bernie has a quite damning past with praising the USSR over the US which is why he spent his honeymoon in Moscow as well which would scare a LOT of undecided voters away.

No issues supporting GOP members who spent the 4th of July there though, gee, I wonder what the deal is?

 

[Heartbreaker]

The biggest problem with Fox is not that they lie, it that they shield their viewers as much as possible from the truth. Bernie understands this. Not sure how effective it will be though, as I seem to remember studies showing that inconvenient facts tend to have the opposite effect on conservatives.

No, they lie. The Trump era has taught all the conservative power brokers that the base has no connection to reality. The base only believe the BS that Fox and GOP politicians spew.

Bernie can have an article at Fox news and it's extremely unlikely to move even one of their readers, because they have been taught to believe Bernie is a communist kook.

Fox will probably even use it as an example that they are an unbiased news sources, since they even allow articles from communist kooks like Bernie.

 

[Homerboy]

He's trying to change thoughts and minds. Hell if his article get through to 1 person in the Fox News land, that's more productive than screaming into an echo chamber.
Bernie doesn't need any "safe spaces"