what is a safe temp for a 1ghz athlon?

[AG73]

OK, bragging rights aside...I just want to know what an *acceptable* temperature is for my 1ghz athlon. AMD says the chip is spec'd to run safely up to 90C, but I take that with a grain of salt. I am usually running at 55C idle and up to 60C after playing quake3 or UT. Case runs at 25-32C. No crashes or lockups or anything. when should I start worrying about my system? I don't care about getting my case/cpu cooler than everyone on the forum, i just want a safe temp range for cpu/case. Ideas?

My system
1 ghz athlon in pcchips m807board - NOT overclocked.
cyber cooler P-5000 heatsink/fan
sunon 80mm intake fan
sunon 60mm output fan
vantec pci card cooler
voodoo3 3000 agp card
256 MB ram
60 gig hard drive

 

[nicowju]

Your current temperature seems good. Should run between 50-55 degrees C. My Duron 700@1000 is running at around 50 C with a FOP38.

 

[SuperKen!]

<< I am usually running at 55C idle and up to 60C after playing quake3 or UT >>



Uh, 50C idle is REALLY hot, especially if its not Overclocked. I have a tbird 850 running at 1Ghz at 1.9v's and it only gets to 51C when running FULL LOAD. Make sure your HSF is attached correctly and there is thermal material between the HSF and CPU.

 

[A2KLAU]

I agree with Super Ken Idle temp is high, but for full load it is about right. Those temps are safe but should be a little cooler as heat will cause resistance, so the lower the temp the more efficient!!

Hope this helps!!!

Albert.

 

[AG73]

thanks for the help. I bought the computer on e bay for cheap, but it didn't come with extra fans or anything. I was running up to 77C at full load! THat made me freak out and so I bought the 3 extra fans. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if the seller did not put any thermal compound. A little Arctic Silver II will be my next step. thanks guys!!

I actually experimented a little before adding the 3 fans, and even with the sides of the case off and a large floor fan (like the kind used to cool an entire room) pointed directly toward the motherboard, blasting cool air toward the CPU I only got as low as 50C idle!!! (is that possible? could my thermometer be inaccurate?)

thanks
AG

 

[Techie333]

my 1ghz athlon unclocked runs at 48 idle and 51 load. btw...IM USING A CRAPPY CFM COOLERMASTER HSF

 

[Davegod75]

i'd say the temp should be in the 40's

 

[WarCon]

Man, I was worried about 45C full load temp on my duron 600@975 and a no load of 42C. I wont worry anymore. Still that damn Alpha PAL6035 with the delta fan sounds like a jet engine. I am definately gonna build a water cooler soon!!! And buy a new case with a top exhaust fan. I think I would of worried about the 77C, I dont think my mobo would of allowed it.

 

[SuperKen!]

Hm, I would double check if the CPU was not sold to you overclocked already. Sounds kinda fishy becuaes of the extremely high temps you are getting.

I would recommend you check the CPU die and look at the markings if it is indeed a 1Ghz Chip. Also check the voltage the chip is running at. If its over the default voltage that is usually a sure sign that is has been overclocked.

And if your temps go above 60C, I would shut down the computer immediately, becuase Athlons will burn up FAST without adequate cooling.

 

[Joemonkey]

my athlon 1Ghz@1.1Ghz idles at 42 degrees and full load (like mpg encoding) runs at around 63 degrees... but i have a KT7A-RAID, and i also heard they read temperatures high as well. any truth to this? anyway, it's stable, and that's fine with me.

 

[DarthSideous]

super ken took the words right out of my mouth, as soon as I read where you got it, I said I bet that thing is oc'd already, those temps are pretty high for a stock chip...60c is like the max you should see with a big overclock and a crappy HSF....I bet that is really an 800 tbird

 

[AG73]

i had the same suspicion, that the bastard that sold me the machine on e bay already oc'd it. here's the winning e bay link: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;item=1203849228

However, my motherboard (pcchips m807) doesn't seem to have the usual cpu and multiplier jumpers on the board. I then assumed that the mobo doesn't support overclocking. I then went into the BIOS and sure enough, there are no BIOS-controlled settings for CPU/multiplier either. Just for kicks, I messed with the &quot;K7 CLCK_CTL&quot; setting--I set it so &quot;CPU CLOCK MATCHES INTERNAL CLOCK&quot; and i'm still running at 1ghz. Can the athlon be manually OC'd by fiddling with the CPU itself? or is it all mobo/bios controlled? I am soon to take off the HSF and add some thermal grease anyway and I will then know the reality of the situation by reading the numbers off the CPU die. I'll report my findings to you all. But, I think I've been had. I wonder if e bay/paypal will protect me for being suckered, if indeed that is the case.

thanks, you guys are all great
AG

 

[AG73]

i checked the CPU and indeed it is an authentic 1ghz athlon, NOT overclocked. There was also a buttload of thermal grease all over the die and the chip. I tried to wipe most of it off the chip, and I cleaned the die really well with lens paper and alcohol, heatsink also. There's still a little surrounding the die, though the die itself is squeaky clean. THe heatsink is far from smooth - like the way it was machined, it has deep parallel grooves. I am about to place some arctic silver to hopefully close the gaps. Should I try to remove ALL of the goop surrounding the die even though the die itself is clean? How do I go about doing this? Or is it OK to just leave behind the little remaining mess even though the die itself is clean? help!
AG

 

[Motero]

Yeah 55 isn't good. Mine is not overclocked and when idle is 40 and with a load is 45 and that is with the retail hsf that came with it.

 

[Gorham]

Keep in mind though that one man's 45 degrees is another's 50 degrees. Since the athlon doesn't jhave a thermistor built into the die temoerature readings can vary widely depending on the motherboard and a number of other factors. Some mohterboards even attempt to compensate for the accuracy of the temp.

The main question is, is your system stable? Also, if there was a large amount of heatsink compund on the chip, that may have served to insulate rather than draw heat away, thus resulting in higher temps. One fairly easy way to apply the proper amount of compound/artic silver is to use the edge of a credit card to spread it in a thin layer across the die. (Make sure to clean the card with alcohol first.) Although, if the heatsink is as rough as you say, you may have to use a bit more, or you could lap the heatsink.

 

[Nerdwannabe]

Hey~!! Techie333 Stop calling my product &quot;crappy!!&quot; :|

 

[TheTeacher]

I think all of your Temps are WAY too high. I have a 1GHz and it runs at 26C at 1,270MHz. LoL
Mike
P.S.
I forgot to mention water cooling. = )

 

[UCBPride]

If I were ANY of you Id be FREAKING OUT!. My temperature is 17deg C idle and 30deg C FULL LOAD. I am using an abit kt7 RAID motherboard and an Alpha PAL35 HSF w/ Sanyo Denki.

anyway im extremely noise sensitive. My computer is more silent than a Dell machine but i want it quieter. are water cooling systems silent??

 

[kponds]

I am freaking out UCB Pride as at 17C (62.6F) are extremely low and probably wong. Unless your using a peltier cooler your room temperature has to be at least 62.6F or below for the CPU to go to 17C even when the system is tured off.

 

[zorglub257]

i have a thunderbird 1ghz with alpha pep66 and it read 31 deg C (idle) and 39 deg C full load!

 

[AG73]

I replaced the crappy cybercooler heatsink/fan/ASII with a GlobalWin FOP32-1/Arctic SilverII and the CPU temp dropped from 56 idle to 42 idle!! Full load CPU now runs 44C with ambient temp ~25C.

So in the end my system was NOT overclocked (1ghz athlon), and I added 1 intake fan and 2 output fans, and the FOP32-1 with arctic silverII. This dropped my CPU temp from 70C full load (that's no typo) to 44C full load!! yeah!!

thanks to everyone that gave me valuable input! You guys rock!!!
AG

 

[WarCon]

Glad it was that simple bro.

 

[johneetrash]

<< If I were ANY of you Id be FREAKING OUT!. My temperature is 17deg C idle and 30deg C FULL LOAD. I am using an abit kt7 RAID motherboard and an Alpha PAL35 HSF w/ Sanyo Denki. >>



17 idle, 30 full? that sounds fishy to me

 

[Mikewarrior2]

Sounds like a mb lie to me.... 17C idle temp should mean a case temp of 10-15C...


Mike