What Intel SoCs can we expect in upcoming Windows 10 phones for 2015?

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I noticed the dual core SoFIA and the Rockchip quad core SoFIA don't support Direct X graphics API for their respective GPUs:

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So besides SoFIA LTE which might be delayed until 2016, what other SoCs could Intel use for 2015 Windows 10 Smartphones?

http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20150629PD202.html

Digitimes Research: Intel 28nm SoFIA 4G AP delayed to early 2016; may face overlap issue with 14nm version
Eric Lin, DIGITIMES Research, Taipei [Monday 29 June 2015]

Despite the fact that the design is complete and the chip is ready for mass production, Intel's 28nm SoFIA 4G application processor (AP) is still unlikely to be launched until the beginning of 2016 due to the adjustments over the software part that is still not yet mature. For 2015, Intel will still need to rely on its SoFIA 3G/3G-R APs to prop up is mobile device AP business and may miss the business opportunities from the 4G market, which is expected to grow rapidly in the second half of this year.

Intel may face an even more problematic issue in 2016 as its 14nm SoFIA product line is already planned for late-2016 and could overlap with the 28nm one from early 2016 and affect each other's demand.

Intel currently only has solutions that pair an independent XMM baseband with an Atom AP for its 4G product lineup, but the solutions are unattractive to players in China due to its high prices. Intel has been working on integrating two chips into an SoC for its SoFIA product line since the end of 2014 to improve the BOM, Digitimes Research noted.

With the SoFIA 4G - which was originally scheduled for 2015 - being delayed until early 2016 and Intel only being able to provide baseband+AP solutions for 4G demand in 2015, the CPU giant may find it difficult to persuade clients to use its solutions for their 4G devices due to the high prices and its subsidies for using its solutions are unlikely to provide much persuasion.

Intel's second-generation SoFIA 4G AP, based on a 14nm process, will become available in late-2016 and could put the first-generation SoFIA 4G AP based on a Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company's (TSMC) 28nm process, in an awkward position and cause the 28nm AP to have an over-short lifecycle. Although Intel may offer cheap prices for the 28nm SoFIA 4G AP and push the 14nm one to the high-end market sector to create a boundary, the CPU giant will still see its profit impacted and its marketing for the processors will also be limited.
 
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None. Windows 10 phones and <8" tablets will all use ARM processors.
 

Roland00Address

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None. Windows 10 phones and <8" tablets will all use ARM processors.


Aicha Evans from Intel (vice president Intel Communication and Device Group aka mobile) was quote said that Intel will be in Windows 10 Mobile devices during MWC 2015.

Microsoft has announced that Windows 10 Mobile which is tablets under 8" and cell phones will be x86-32 bit compatible (official name IA-32) as well as ARM compatible. This means both Intel and AMD can make windows 10 phones.

To my understanding no official deals or devices have been announced. Windows 10 Mobile will support the theoretical possibility of intel atom chips but that does not mean this is actually going to occur. For example Microsoft may want to keep its options open to an ever changing landscape and marketplace, it can also be used as leverage to negotiate prices with qualcomm with their lumina division.

Personally I see it as occurring for sure, but will it be a token position or will it actually occur as a serious thing.
 

dark zero

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AMD could release their Mullins on 5/6'' Phones and without overheating (with a higher price).
Actually they are better than Intel solution on Graphic apartment, the downside is that they can't give phone functions, so it depends on Intel or 3rd parties to make it somewhat decent.

Intel SoFIA is something really risky since Intel already has the Atom line who are competing against ARM... going worse than ARM and even MIPS, would be a bad move.