What in the hell is apple trying to prove!!!

SSXeon5

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All im sick of is watching comedy central and seeing a stupid G5 commersial and thinking to myself "who is apple trying to fool?".

All i want to know is if they are so good in spec tests why havent they submitting any performance specs?

I see:

CINT2000 -------------------- Base

Pentium 4 3.2GHz 512k: --- 1205
Pentium 4 3.0Ghz 512k: --- 1151
Xeon 3.06GHz 1MB: -------- 1242
Xeon MP 2.8 GHz 2MB: ---- 1204
Itanium 2 1.5Ghz 6MB: -----1077
XP 3200+ 512k: ------------- 1044
Opteron 1.8 GHz 1MB: ----- 1095 (why did they submit 4 different scores for this chip on 4 diff compliers?)

Now this is what mac says on there site:

Apple G4 2.0Ghz 512k: ---- 800
Pentium 4 3.0Ghz 512k: --- 836
Xeon 3.06GHz 1MB: -------- 889

?????????????? Can anyone explain this?


CFP2000 ---------------------- Base

Pentium 4 3.2GHz 512k: --- 1267
Pentium 4 3.0Ghz 512k: --- 1229
Xeon 3.06GHz 1MB: -------- 1173
Xeon MP 2.8 GHz 2MB: ---- 1103
Itanium 2 1.5Ghz 6MB: -----2041 !!!!
XP 3200+ 512k: ------------- 873
Opteron 1.8 GHz 1MB: ----- 1093

(off apple.com):

Apple G4 2.0Ghz 512k: ---- 840
Pentium 4 3.0Ghz 512k: --- 646
Xeon 3.06GHz 1MB: -------- 693

Is it me or is mac lying there ass off? Sorry had to bitch its making me antsy...

SSXeon
 

WarCon

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You know that old saying may very well apply, "Figures lie and Liars figure."
 

mosco

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Do a search, it has been talked about alot when they first came out. I think the higher Spec scores you listed are because of optimized compilers. The ones apple gave use gcc on both the macs and pcs, which is not even optimized very much for the mac, more for the pc. But I recomend you try a search for more accurate information.

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search the general hardware forum, i think thats where most of the posts were.
 

bgeh

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the Itanium 2(Madison) is a beast. anyway, search at the GH forum. or under user name Eug. :p
 

Jeff7181

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Originally posted by: WarCon
You know that old saying may very well apply, "Figures lie and Liars figure."

I thought it was... "Figures don't lie, but liars will figure."
 

WarCon

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Seen it both ways........... The way I posed it probably is more the truth ot it............ (Don't we all try to shine a better light on things)
 

Smilin

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Lies, damn lies and statistics.

Apple want to compare ONLY the hardware and not the OS so naturally they used software that was optimized for only one hardware platform and then...

Hey! Wait a minute!
 

OddTSi

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Two can play Apple's game. From now on I am to be known as "the world's greatest basketball player."*

*Statement based upon a game played with Odd TSi having a 6ft. high rim and the opponent having a 20ft. high rim.
 

Bateluer

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Its Apple. You did not really expect them to deal squarely and produce a fast system did you? Nuff said.