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They are dud Zen3 dies!
This could also explain the crazy memory OCs on the 3300X that some people found.
This could also explain the crazy memory OCs on the 3300X that some people found.
Well, Nosta (bless his heart) did recently post about a split in Zen3 development, and a "Fake" Zen3, with "a few changed blocks", and a "Real" Zen3, that was the new architecture.If they are, Zen3 is going to be a real pig.
When a 3600 has been reliably $20-$30 more in the same time frame? They always seemed like solid business PC CPUs to me but a step too far down the ladder for enthusiasts.The 3300X benches almost exactly the same as the Ryzen 3600 in most games. Like, the vast majority of them! The 3100 trails way behind in comparison. For gaming, it's just an incredible value... I really should've grabbed one when my local shop got a small batch in last month!
What Nostra says never comes true. Larry, seems like you either like conspiracy theories or want AMD to fail.Well, Nosta (bless his heart) did recently post about a split in Zen3 development, and a "Fake" Zen3, with "a few changed blocks", and a "Real" Zen3, that was the new architecture.
I know what Nosta says, rarely comes true, but what if that were true? That the "Zen3" that is going to show up soon, or by the end of 2020, is going to be the "Fake" Zen3, with only a few changed blocks from Zen2, and the 3300X are rejected "Fake Zen3" dies, that AMD decided to sell.
Has anyone compared IPC at ISO clocks and or power limits for the 3300X to Zen2 dies? They are so rare, hard to find to get a hold of to make a comparison.
I know, I know, a bit conspiratorial, but why else is the availability of the 3300X so low? And yet, the 3100 is available. Seems slightly suspicious, when taken with the "other" factors that make the 3300X seem uniquely faster than all other Zen2 CPUs, for gaming IPC.
Around here it's a $100 difference. $175 vs $275 Canadian. Considering the gaming performance (my preferred activity) is almost identical, there's a good reason budget gamers snap them up the moment they hit the shelves.When a 3600 has been reliably $20-$30 more in the same time frame? They always seemed like solid business PC CPUs to me but a step too far down the ladder for enthusiasts.
Well, it's back to the same here but in the good old days right after launch that wasn't the case at all. I don't know that any real number of them hit the channel since then here. The 3600 pricing situation only changed in the last couple of weeks, presumably as we are getting so close to the Zen 3 drop. It was pretty reliably around $150 at MC with a $20 board credit and is now $180 with a $20 combo credit. Still a fantastic deal given the relative performance IMO.Around here it's a $100 difference. $175 vs $275 Canadian. Considering the gaming performance (my preferred activity) is almost identical, there's a good reason budget gamers snap them up the moment they hit the shelves.
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