what if North Korea and Iran went on the offensive and attacked...

[OutHouse]

humm, Iran digging mass graves for US soldiers incase we attack them. North Korea laying down a artillery barrage... what if both countries attacked us. Iran into Iraq, North Korea into south Korea.. god that would be a mess and im sure would surly start a world war.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/08/10/iran-digging-graves-troops-case-attack/?test=latestnews

http://www1.voanews.com/english/new...-North-Over-Artillery-Barrage--100341909.html

 

[SunnyD]

I would thing that two small nation-states, while having some semblance of support from two world powers (China and Russia respectively) would find themselves quickly condemned by their supposed allies and crushed rather rapidly by not only international forces but likely forces including their own allies as well.

It would only be a world war insofar as it ends up those two against the world. Neither have enough military power to make much of a dent in the global scheme of things.

 

[StageLeft]

Both would be repelled (from land-grab), Iran in particular with comical ease. Surely they've seen what happens to columns of tanks out in the desert. And whatever ground North Korea made up it would lose at the first site of a McDonalds when half its troops go AWOL on the spot because they're so damned hungry.

 

[ZzZGuy]

World war? HA.

If NK attacks they throw away all leverage that have to prevent them from being steam rolled. To prevent the USA basically being on it's doorstep China will invade NK and install a puppet government, and SK would likely be happy that they don't have to foot the bill for NK reconstruction.

Russia, I'd say it's likely they'd help bomb the crap out of Iran just for making them look by supporting Iran (muchhhhhh more likely if it's 100% clear Iran has or will have a atomic bomb).

Neither countries governments or leaders would survive, so for this to happen they would have to be in a very dire lose lose situation, and in the case of Iran have the support of it's people to commit national suicide.

 

[Genx87]

We would throttle NK. Iran would be a tougher cookie to crack. But I suspect we would be able to keep them from holding any Iraqi territory.

 

[irishScott]

One way or another, they'd both be flattened. Both of their military's are woefully outdated, and numbers only do so much.

 

[irishScott]

We would throttle NK. Iran would be a tougher cookie to crack. But I suspect would be able to keep them from holding any Iraqi territory.

We'd have complete air superiority against Iran. Against a traditional military that alone usually wins wars.

 

[Moonbeam]

What if my butt learned to flap and grew wings?

 

[MotF Bane]

Iran: Desert Storm, Iraqi Freedom, ____________.
NK: Water on two sides and a US ally to the south. Haha.

 

[DaveSimmons]

We'd just repeal the 19th amendment.

(Haven't they suffered enough?)

 

[OutHouse]

One way or another, they'd both be flattened. Both of their military's are woefully outdated, and numbers only do so much.

you forget the nuke factor. NK is crazy enough to actually pop one if there was a foreign army at the city limit of Pyongyang

 

[nageov3t]

Seoul might be turned to rubble in the opening salvo, but Pyongyang would be a shiny flat parking lot a couple seconds later. with no authoritarian dictator, I'd imagine that most of North Korea would westernize very, very quickly and will be dying of exhaustion in internet cafes in short order.

Iran might be easy enough to take out militarily, but I can't imagine anyone who'd want to invade and occupy the territory. it'd have to be like the UN or something.

 

[irishScott]

you forget the nuke factor. NK is crazy enough to actually pop one if there was a foreign army at the city limit of Pyongyang

Still wouldn't stop us. Nevermind the fact they'd invite nuclear retaliation. That said I don't see Obama having the balls to nuke anyone. Russia could probably try to wipe us out Cold War nuclear holocaust style and he'd just "play the bigger man" and let them. But i digress.

 

[irishScott]

Seoul might be turned to rubble in the opening salvo, but Pyongyang would be a shiny flat parking lot a couple seconds later. with no authoritarian dictator, I'd imagine that most of North Korea would westernize very, very quickly and will be dying of exhaustion in internet cafes in short order.

Iran might be easy enough to take out militarily, but I can't imagine anyone who'd want to invade and occupy the territory. it'd have to be like the UN or something.

Lol. Because UN peacekeepers work so well.

 

[ZzZGuy]

you forget the nuke factor. NK is crazy enough to actually pop one if there was a foreign army at the city limit of Pyongyang

The only "nuclear" bomb NK has is a dirty bomb. Their previous tests, shown from air samples and seismic readings, where fizzles. They couldn't make a working bomb if their dear leader depended on it.

 

[nageov3t]

Lol. Because UN peacekeepers work so well.

I didn't say they'd do it well but what 1 country would be willing to take on the burden of subduing and nation building Iran?

 

[irishScott]

I didn't say they'd do it well but what 1 country would be willing to take on the burden of subduing and nation building Iran?

True.

 

[ZzZGuy]

I didn't say they'd do it well but what 1 country would be willing to take on the burden of subduing and nation building Iran?

I would assume the bulk of the Iranian leadership (government and religious) would be dead in short order, and the rest hunted thereafter.

So after bombing the crap out of the country, say "no hard feelings" and throw funds at whatever group fills the power vacuum, provided they are not like the taliban, for reconstruction efforts. They'll still hate whoever was involved in bombing them & providing support for said bombing but they wouldn't have a reason to keep fighting, and in time they might develop a decent government.

Throwing ground troops at the problem would likely have less of a chance at succeeding in the case of Iran, as the population is not terrorized by their government (much) and would tear down any government outsiders prop up given the first chance, like they did before.

 

[Lemon law]

Do we only ask that question because the USA and Israel are the only countries to try the attack other countries trick in the past two decades.

But yes, if Iran or North Korea tried attacking others countries, and nukes were not used to stop they, they could short term run wild, but long term would get crushed.

So what, but then again Moonbeam's butt would have to grow a set of big wing's first before he could fly. Without that set of big wings, Moonbeam remains earthbound. And Iran and North Korea probably will almost certainly not attack other countries.

 

[MovingTarget]

NK might one day be either stupid or desperate enough to attack SK. They would be repelled in short order after Seoul is flattened with artillery. The wild card is China in that situation.

Iran, not so much. They may seem a bit nuts in terms of their foreign policy statements (no shortage of audio clips from their president on that one), but in reality they have been quite cunning. Any attack by an outside power would galvanize support amongst the people. Doing nothing outside of maintaining the current boarders would be the best thing to do. Let them change/collapse from within.

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

Well with the current Admin in office, The US wouldn't do anything. Obama might apologize a few times and bow to some more leaders. That's about it.

 

[nobodyknows]

What if my butt learned to flap and grew wings?

You'd be a Moonbat?

 

[DesiPower]

... we will have two big holes on the face of the earth.

Dont these goat fvcking morons know that our foot soldiers dont attack unlit about hmm... maybe a week of the start of the offensive?

 

[woolfe9999]

Still wouldn't stop us. Nevermind the fact they'd invite nuclear retaliation. That said I don't see Obama having the balls to nuke anyone. Russia could probably try to wipe us out Cold War nuclear holocaust style and he'd just "play the bigger man" and let them. But i digress.

You say that like it's a criticism, that Obama wouldn't us OUR nukes to flatten another country in retaliation for them using nukes against South Korea, especially when we are well capable of flattening anyone with conventional weapons. I tend to think that not having 1001 trigger points for using your nuclear arsenal is probably a sane thing.

LOL at the ring wing "dems are weak on national security" talking point that never fails to arise in every thread about foreign affairs.

- wolf

 

[lsquare]

humm, Iran digging mass graves for US soldiers incase we attack them. North Korea laying down a artillery barrage... what if both countries attacked us. Iran into Iraq, North Korea into south Korea.. god that would be a mess and im sure would surly start a world war.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/08/10/iran-digging-graves-troops-case-attack/?test=latestnews

http://www1.voanews.com/english/new...-North-Over-Artillery-Barrage--100341909.html

You're joking right? The minute Iran and or North Korea launches an invasion, is the minute that the regimes will collapse. Worse comes worse, the US can just nuke them.