What if GOP has very high turnout and still loses?

[Zebo]

This guy seems to think it's democrats in trouble and about to split.. I happen to agree. Republuicans problem is they got revolutionary and Democratic, big D, in Foreign Policy (nation Building) and Immigration (open borders) and welfare (Medicare and other dispicable spending).. The Republican message of low taxes, less govt, less speding simply resonates better with americans, if they only stick to it and I think they will return and continue domination of american poltics.

http://www.redstate.com/blogs/mark_i/2006/oct/27/democrats_in_the_last_throes

 

[totalcommand]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: International Machine Consortium

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
The immigration debate could be a turning sign of the conservatives retaking over the party. The Senate Democrats tried to follow Bush and his comprehensive reform plan and the House almost followed until the people in their home districts raised hell, with the help of Rush and Hannity; and next thing you know we have a wall building bill.

There is a chance this could be the turning point away from the Bush non-conservative style and back to true conservatism. Especially if they win on Tuesday. If the Reps keep both the house and the senate they will owe it all to the conservative base that got and voted.

As far as what you say. If GOP turnout is high there is no way they lose because of that. The higher the GOP turn out the more seats they win. If I was a Democrat I would be very worried about turnout. The Republicans are pissed about Kerry and not happy with the idea of Pelosi being in charge. But on the Dem said, other than the anti-war left, I see no signs of a vastly stirred up party. Or am I just missing those signs?

I call bullshit.

We shall see. You had better hope you are right.

Which part of my post is BS?

One very good political commentary already points out that since the Democrats do not have ONE clear alternative to Iraq that even if they win it does not mean they have a mandate.

I remember after winning the 2004 election Bush claimed he had a mandate, which is complete bullsh*t.

If Dems retake one of the houses, it sure as hell means Bush has NO mandate, of which more than 60% of the country will be thankful for according to polls.

What they have is several different ideas on what to do in Iraq from the immediate withdrawal to staying for another 6 months to a year etc. Since the Democrats did not get out there as group and say "If you vote for us we will do X" then they can not rightfully claim a mandate.

ALL democrats want a timetable for withdrawal from Iraq, something Bush has refused to do.

This means we are unlikely to see much change at all, especially in Iraq policy. Unless the Democrats get a working majority, which means they need to pick up 20-25 seats. Otherwise they will be fighting an up hill battle for everything they try and do.

I'd still rather have them fighting that uphill battle then having Republicans rubber stamp Bush's failed policies

 

[Jhhnn]

"The Republican message of low taxes, less govt, less speding simply resonates better with americans"

At this point, only the very, very faithful actually believe that. Repubs have merely provided an illusion of lower taxes by increasing debt as they've grown government and spending at the highest rate since the days of the Great Society...

But they're telling you what you want to hear, and giving a pretty good reacharound, too...

 

[International Machine Consortium]

Originally posted by: Zebo
This guy seems to think it's democrats in trouble and about to split.. I happen to agree. Republuicans problem is they got revolutionary and Democratic, big D, in Foreign Policy (nation Building) and Immigration (open borders) and welfare (Medicare and other dispicable spending).. The Republican message of low taxes, less govt, less speding simply resonates better with americans, if they only stick to it and I think they will return and continue domination of american poltics.

http://www.redstate.com/blogs/mark_i/2006/oct/27/democrats_in_the_last_throes

Except their "message" does not jibe with reality. The gov is larger than ever, spending is greater than ever, taxation, except for the highest echelons, are higher, and they are wasting money hand over fist on their failed war in Iraq. Billion upon billion that could have been spent elsewhere. We could have had a health care system funded into perpetuity with all the Repubs have blown on their failed war. That's what is resonating with Americans right now. Heck, you and the others gloating over an assured Repub victory on Tuesday may be right, but we shall see. Considering the cocky gloating, if you're wrong, being run out on a rail should be in order Wed morning.

 

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Diebold to the rescue!

Go Go Go gadget firmware backdoor!

 

[Fox5]

Originally posted by: Lemon law
The repubs talk an excellent line---but there is no substitute for results--or lack of the same.

No matter how you paint it---Iraq is a giant mess---and no matter how much lip stick you put on a pig.

It still remains a pig with lip stick.---and as much as the repubs have scared the American public
about the dems---results prove the repubs are worse. After six unbroken years---the republican spin
machine is no longer enough.

Object lesson---never forget---your results must match your rhetoric---a fact repubs forgot.

STFU, repub for life, brother!

No, but seriously, this nation is polarized, but the republican side has an ever so little stronger religious base that will win this for them, no matter what. The modern media is what ensures they will win, they tell the populace who to vote for, people no longer are given a chance to think independently about it. You're with the moral right, or with those outright sinners. People know nothing about their government, these elections will prove that just like the last couple.

We need to get rid of the political parties and let every candidate run as an independent. Don't let people vote along party lines, let them pick and choose.

 

[theeedude]

So now what? I knew this would have happened. The Rovian politics of the base are dead. Clintonian politics of the middle are back. GOP needs to get with the program. They are in the danger zone because they lost a lot of moderates, so now there is going to be even fewer moderate voices in their parties. They have to drag themselves to the middle if they want a chance to win again.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: senseamp
So now what? I knew this would have happened.

The Rovian politics of the base are dead.

Clintonian politics of the middle are back.

GOP needs to get with the program.

They are in the danger zone because they lost a lot of moderates, so now there is going to be even fewer moderate voices in their parties.

They have to drag themselves to the middle if they want a chance to win again.

Actually the Nov 2008 Election is still in the bag for a Republican President.

The vote turned out a little better than I thought but the Religious still voted for their hate mongering in a big way.

Except for a win for Science, all other Freedom loving initiatives were defeated by the Religious Republicans such as Marijuana, Gay equality etc.