What if drugs were legal for pro athletes?

Zanix

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I think they should be, or at least have a seperate league for chemically enhances players. I think that would be a great show. I bunch of huge football players buffed out on steroids and meth, angry and tough. Then a team would only need what.. 11 or maybe 12 players?

The health of the players is obviously an issue. If the drugs were legal for them though, then research could be done and they could find a way to eliminate or minimize the side effects. But so what.. So then the average carreer length of a pro athlete would just drop by a few years. We don't have a shortage of talented althetes do we? The players would get ripped, play for ~6 years, collect their millions and retire comfortably. Why are we stuck on seeing them "naturally" build up? Some pre-hormone stuff is legal... some hormone stuff is not... who cares. Make it all fair game. The players won't do the stuff that'll kill them, or at least not in high enough doses. Plus the teams have doctors and physical therapists on the payroll already.. so why not? Regulate them at least.

Research would be done on drugs that would speed recovery from injury. That corner alone could benifit all of us. We could have a drug that helps heal breaks/sprains in a fraction of the time. Small doses of steroids mixed with vitamins and whatnot... a cureall.

All I'm saying is if these guys are already under the wach of trainers and doctors, why not do some R and D? Help NASA out. A broken bone on the Moon could mean death.

But we don't want our kids to think "drug use" is ok... :disgust: Riiight. Then what about all the "purple pill" or "natural male enhancement" commercials? They're confused enough as it is.
 

Zanix

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Originally posted by: TheLonelyPhoenix
Are you trying to set a record for "most consecutive retarded threads"?

Ohhh ouch! Nice one! High-five! :roll:
 

Schrodinger

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I don't understand why congress and the white house are getting into the steroid issue. It does NOT belong at that level.

Players should be free to use any drug they want IMO and leagues/teams should be able to regulate who plays based on mandatory testing (weekly?) all they want.
 

TheLonelyPhoenix

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Originally posted by: Schrodinger
I don't understand why congress and the white house are getting into the steroid issue. It does NOT belong at that level.

Players should be free to any drug they want IMO and leagues/teams should be able to regulate who plays based on mandatory testing (weekly?) all they want.

We need a spawn tank and some rocket launchers involved in every sport too.
 

Atomicus

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I think the athletes would be using it like how gamers tweak and OC vid cards. Some will do it, some won't.
But I don't really care because tennis and ping-pong can be won without strong muscles and huge mass.
 

91TTZ

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In most sports it won't make any difference, since the players are already juiced up.
 

Zanix

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Originally posted by: TheLonelyPhoenix
Originally posted by: Schrodinger
I don't understand why congress and the white house are getting into the steroid issue. It does NOT belong at that level.

Players should be free to any drug they want IMO and leagues/teams should be able to regulate who plays based on mandatory testing (weekly?) all they want.

We need a spawn tank and some rocket launchers involved in every sport too.

That's a pretty crappy strawman attempt.
 

Queasy

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See the classic SNL skit where they give a news update on the all steroid Olympics.
 

mwtgg

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Originally posted by: Schrodinger
I don't understand why congress and the white house are getting into the steroid issue. It does NOT belong at that level.

Players should be free to use any drug they want IMO and leagues/teams should be able to regulate who plays based on mandatory testing (weekly?) all they want.

The drugs are illegal.
 

Schrodinger

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Originally posted by: mwtgg
Originally posted by: Schrodinger
I don't understand why congress and the white house are getting into the steroid issue. It does NOT belong at that level.

Players should be free to use any drug they want IMO and leagues/teams should be able to regulate who plays based on mandatory testing (weekly?) all they want.

The drugs are illegal.

Its about freedom of choice. The league should choose what image they want to portray and the policies to enforce with baseball/football/whatever sport. The "people" don't own the sport. They have no right to sit their kid in front of it and expect it to be some clean little dainty image. The government has no right to stick their dick in it and force testing if the league doesn't want it.

Don't want your kid thinking stereoids are okay? Then give them your opinion on it or turn off the tube. Be a parent.

The anti-drug propaganda in the US is so laughable.

Bust them for drug use if a LEO catches them but don't make them guilty until innocent and force testing by government action unless its a policy created by the league and the owners.
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: Schrodinger
Originally posted by: mwtgg
Originally posted by: Schrodinger
I don't understand why congress and the white house are getting into the steroid issue. It does NOT belong at that level.

Players should be free to use any drug they want IMO and leagues/teams should be able to regulate who plays based on mandatory testing (weekly?) all they want.

The drugs are illegal.

Its about freedom of choice. The league should choose what image they want to portray and the policies to enforce with baseball/football/whatever sport. The "people" don't own the sport. They have no right to sit their kid in front of it and expect it to be some clean little dainty image. The government has no right to stick their dick in it and force testing if the league doesn't want it.

Don't want your kid thinking stereoids are okay? Then give them your opinion on it or turn off the tube. Be a parent.

The anti-drug propaganda in the US is so laughable.

Bust them for drug use if a LEO catches them but don't make them guilty until innocent and force testing by government action unless its a policy created by the league and the owners.

Wrong on the bolded statement. MLB is a government sanctioned monopoly, and legally Congress has every right to involve themselves with the MLB's operations.

Not that they should.
 

Zanix

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Originally posted by: mwtgg
Originally posted by: Schrodinger
I don't understand why congress and the white house are getting into the steroid issue. It does NOT belong at that level.

Players should be free to use any drug they want IMO and leagues/teams should be able to regulate who plays based on mandatory testing (weekly?) all they want.

The drugs are illegal.

Even by prescription?
 

TheLonelyPhoenix

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Originally posted by: Schrodinger
Originally posted by: mwtgg
Originally posted by: Schrodinger
I don't understand why congress and the white house are getting into the steroid issue. It does NOT belong at that level.

Players should be free to use any drug they want IMO and leagues/teams should be able to regulate who plays based on mandatory testing (weekly?) all they want.

The drugs are illegal.

Its about freedom of choice. The league should choose what image they want to portray and the policies to enforce with baseball/football/whatever sport. The "people" don't own the sport. They have no right to sit their kid in front of it and expect it to be some clean little dainty image. The government has no right to stick their dick in it and force testing if the league doesn't want it.

Don't want your kid thinking stereoids are okay? Then give them your opinion on it or turn off the tube. Be a parent.

The anti-drug propaganda in the US is so laughable.

Bust them for drug use if a LEO catches them but don't make them guilty until innocent and force testing by government action unless its a policy created by the league and the owners.

No, they're not illegal as in "the sport doesn't allow that" illegal. They're illegal like "controlled substance" illegal. That's why Congress "has their dick in it", as you so eloquently put it.
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: Zanix
Originally posted by: mwtgg
Originally posted by: Schrodinger
I don't understand why congress and the white house are getting into the steroid issue. It does NOT belong at that level.

Players should be free to use any drug they want IMO and leagues/teams should be able to regulate who plays based on mandatory testing (weekly?) all they want.

The drugs are illegal.

Even by prescription?

If the Dr. gives them a prescription so they can simply perform better, they are violating the law.
 

Schrodinger

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Originally posted by: TheLonelyPhoenix
Originally posted by: Schrodinger
Originally posted by: mwtgg
Originally posted by: Schrodinger
I don't understand why congress and the white house are getting into the steroid issue. It does NOT belong at that level.

Players should be free to use any drug they want IMO and leagues/teams should be able to regulate who plays based on mandatory testing (weekly?) all they want.

The drugs are illegal.

Its about freedom of choice. The league should choose what image they want to portray and the policies to enforce with baseball/football/whatever sport. The "people" don't own the sport. They have no right to sit their kid in front of it and expect it to be some clean little dainty image. The government has no right to stick their dick in it and force testing if the league doesn't want it.

Don't want your kid thinking stereoids are okay? Then give them your opinion on it or turn off the tube. Be a parent.

The anti-drug propaganda in the US is so laughable.

Bust them for drug use if a LEO catches them but don't make them guilty until innocent and force testing by government action unless its a policy created by the league and the owners.

No, they're not illegal as in "the sport doesn't allow that" illegal. They're illegal like "controlled substance" illegal. That's why Congress "has their dick in it", as you so eloquently put it.


And thats exactly my point. If its a policy of the sport league then testing should be enforced. If its a government enforced law then they should stay out of it. You can't test anyone off the street, why should athletes be treated differently? They are trying to wrongly regulate the image of the sport IMO.
 

Zanix

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Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: Zanix
Originally posted by: mwtgg
Originally posted by: Schrodinger
I don't understand why congress and the white house are getting into the steroid issue. It does NOT belong at that level.

Players should be free to use any drug they want IMO and leagues/teams should be able to regulate who plays based on mandatory testing (weekly?) all they want.

The drugs are illegal.

Even by prescription?

If the Dr. gives them a prescription so they can simply perform better, they are violating the law.

Legal only by prescription. Well the players shouldn't be micro managing drug enhancement anyway. The doctors should and do already for the stuff that's legal right now.

So why should it be illegal for a doctor to write a prescription for preformance inhancement? What's the gimmie here.
 

TheLonelyPhoenix

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Originally posted by: Schrodinger
why should athletes be treated differently?

They aren't. Anyone applying for a job can be asked to take a drug test. An athlete making a sh!tload more than the average job doesn't get special privledges.
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: Zanix
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: Zanix
Originally posted by: mwtgg
Originally posted by: Schrodinger
I don't understand why congress and the white house are getting into the steroid issue. It does NOT belong at that level.

Players should be free to use any drug they want IMO and leagues/teams should be able to regulate who plays based on mandatory testing (weekly?) all they want.

The drugs are illegal.

Even by prescription?

If the Dr. gives them a prescription so they can simply perform better, they are violating the law.

Legal only by prescription. Well the players shouldn't be micro managing drug enhancement anyway. The doctors should and do already for the stuff that's legal right now.

So why should it be illegal for a doctor to write a prescription for preformance inhancement? What's the gimmie here.

Why shouldn't a doctor be allowed to write a prescription for a morphine addict to get his fix, or someone like to score some vicodins??

For that matter, why shouldn't a doctor be allowed to write a prescription for anybody, for anything?

Think about that for a minute.
 

TheLonelyPhoenix

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Originally posted by: Zanix
So why should it be illegal for a doctor to write a prescription for preformance inhancement? What's the gimmie here.

Right. On that note, why should it be illegal for a doctor to prescribe me some valium so I can get a nice high the next time I'm out drinking? :disgust:
 

Zanix

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Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: Zanix
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: Zanix
Originally posted by: mwtgg
Originally posted by: Schrodinger
I don't understand why congress and the white house are getting into the steroid issue. It does NOT belong at that level.

Players should be free to use any drug they want IMO and leagues/teams should be able to regulate who plays based on mandatory testing (weekly?) all they want.

The drugs are illegal.

Even by prescription?

If the Dr. gives them a prescription so they can simply perform better, they are violating the law.

Legal only by prescription. Well the players shouldn't be micro managing drug enhancement anyway. The doctors should and do already for the stuff that's legal right now.

So why should it be illegal for a doctor to write a prescription for preformance inhancement? What's the gimmie here.

Why shouldn't a doctor be allowed to write a prescription for a morphine addict to get his fix, or someone like to score some vicodins??

For that matter, why shouldn't a doctor be allowed to write a prescription for anybody, for anything?

Think about that for a minute.

I see crooked doctors "selling" prescription meds. That's bad, obviously. Dr. Nick would be a neighborhood hero.

As others in this thread are saying, the government is already regulating the drug use in the sports. So why not let doctors prescribe some more drugs?

Besides the crooked docs part, you're going to have to explain to me why doctors shouldn't be able to prescribe anything to anybody. My aunt is a hypochondriac and the doctors have her on a bunch of painkillers and a morphine drip right into her spine. I think they're supporting an addicts habits, but who am I to say she'd have a better life without drugs... she'd probably off herself. At least she's not getting her fix from the street, I guess.