What, if any safeguards are there from the Prez saying "f-u <insert country here"

[dug777]

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: pontifex
doesn't anything regarding war have to go through congress 1st?

No, the Executive branch can exercise our nuclear option without consulting congress as it has been long recognized as far too impractical in the event of an in progress nuclear attack. We would have a maximum of 25 minutes to decide on a retaliation.

Only the National Command Authority can authorize a nuclear strike. The NCA consists of the President and the Sec. of Defense. Neither can give the order on their own.

wait, we're talking about an already incoming nuke acttack? i thought he was asking if like right now, Bush got pissed off at say, N. Korea, and said "i'm going to nuke those evil-doers right now."

edit: i was right. the OP said:

"As Commander-in-Chief of our fine country's military assets, are there any safeguards in place from the President pointing at the map and saying, "Fvck this crap, I'm tired of <Korea, Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, or any of a dozen other countries> screwing around. Nuke 'em."? "

wouldn't he have to go through congress to do that?

Did he have to do that for Eye-rack? As i said, i'm just a simple country aussie

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: dug777

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: pontifex
doesn't anything regarding war have to go through congress 1st?

No, the Executive branch can exercise our nuclear option without consulting congress as it has been long recognized as far too impractical in the event of an in progress nuclear attack. We would have a maximum of 25 minutes to decide on a retaliation.

Only the National Command Authority can authorize a nuclear strike. The NCA consists of the President and the Sec. of Defense. Neither can give the order on their own.

wait, we're talking about an already incoming nuke acttack? i thought he was asking if like right now, Bush got pissed off at say, N. Korea, and said "i'm going to nuke those evil-doers right now."

edit: i was right. the OP said:

"As Commander-in-Chief of our fine country's military assets, are there any safeguards in place from the President pointing at the map and saying, "Fvck this crap, I'm tired of <Korea, Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, or any of a dozen other countries> screwing around. Nuke 'em."? "

wouldn't he have to go through congress to do that?

Did he have to do that for Eye-rack? As i said, i'm just a simple country aussie

The use of the military was in Iraq was granted by an Act of Congress.

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: dug777

Did he have to do that for Eye-rack? As i said, i'm just a simple country aussie

I don't know. I didn't think the pres. could just say "i'm declaring war on Iraq." and immediately send troops.

 

[dug777]

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: dug777

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: pontifex
doesn't anything regarding war have to go through congress 1st?

No, the Executive branch can exercise our nuclear option without consulting congress as it has been long recognized as far too impractical in the event of an in progress nuclear attack. We would have a maximum of 25 minutes to decide on a retaliation.

Only the National Command Authority can authorize a nuclear strike. The NCA consists of the President and the Sec. of Defense. Neither can give the order on their own.

wait, we're talking about an already incoming nuke acttack? i thought he was asking if like right now, Bush got pissed off at say, N. Korea, and said "i'm going to nuke those evil-doers right now."

edit: i was right. the OP said:

"As Commander-in-Chief of our fine country's military assets, are there any safeguards in place from the President pointing at the map and saying, "Fvck this crap, I'm tired of <Korea, Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, or any of a dozen other countries> screwing around. Nuke 'em."? "

wouldn't he have to go through congress to do that?

Did he have to do that for Eye-rack? As i said, i'm just a simple country aussie

The use of the military was in Iraq was granted by an Act of Congress.

Cheers. I wasn't entirely sure how it worked there is all

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: dug777

Did he have to do that for Eye-rack? As i said, i'm just a simple country aussie

I don't know. I didn't think the pres. could just say "i'm declaring war on Iraq." and immediately send troops.

According to the War Powers Resolution, the President can act militarily for 60 days before requiring the consent of Congress. That consent has never been denied by Congess since the law passed.

 

[Drakkon]

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: dug777

Did he have to do that for Eye-rack? As i said, i'm just a simple country aussie

I don't know. I didn't think the pres. could just say "i'm declaring war on Iraq." and immediately send troops.

he cant "declare war" but he can declare "military actions" which can redeploy troops to areas where war could break out. This however may start a war that we would be kinda stuck in at that point.

 

[Glayde]

If I remember correctly, first strike nuclear options initiated by the president have to be confirmed by another person, someone who has been approved by congress by vote (appointed/nominated then approved by vote)

 

[SunnyD]

Originally posted by: F22 Raptor

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: pontifex
doesn't anything regarding war have to go through congress 1st?

No, the Executive branch can exercise our nuclear option without consulting congress as it has been long recognized as far too impractical in the event of an in progress nuclear attack. We would have a maximum of 25 minutes to decide on a retaliation.

Only the National Command Authority can authorize a nuclear strike. The NCA consists of the President and the Sec. of Defense. Neither can give the order on their own.

:thumbsup: Finally someone who kows what they are talking about.

Yes indeedy! Thank you much K1052, that does answer my question.

 

[tweakmm]

A much wiser man than I said it best:

The president in particular is very much a figurehead - he wields no real power whatsoever. He is apparently chosen by the government, but the qualities he is required to display are not those of leadership but those of finely judged outrage. For this reason the president is always a controversial choice, always an infuriating but fascinating character. His job is not to wield power but to draw attention away from it

R.I.P.

 

[yllus]

Originally posted by: tweakmm
A much wiser man than I said it best:

The president in particular is very much a figurehead - he wields no real power whatsoever. He is apparently chosen by the government, but the qualities he is required to display are not those of leadership but those of finely judged outrage. For this reason the president is always a controversial choice, always an infuriating but fascinating character. His job is not to wield power but to draw attention away from it

R.I.P.

Ford Prefect?

 

[ProfJohn]

Reagan tried it: "My fellow Americans, I'm pleased to tell you today that I've signed legislation that will outlaw Russia forever. We begin bombing in five minutes."

Nothing happeend....