What I?ve learned about PC gamers (who aren?t me)

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jakobkraft

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Originally posted by: Eeezee
He wants his fancy alienware laptop to be so awesome so badly that he tricked himself into believing that there is no stuttering.

I don't think it's a physical limitation like what you're insinuating, I think it's psychological and only applies to those who take immense pride in their systems.

On the other hand, have you considered that maybe your eyes are glitched? :p


If so, then they're glitched in a good way;)


Originally posted by: skace
Disable vegetation and thank me later.


That brought the frames up a bit, but it didn't make a difference with stuttering.


Originally posted by: kyubi
go to repair console then type in format c:

That's a joke, right?
 

skace

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Originally posted by: jakobkraft
That brought the frames up a bit, but it didn't make a difference with stuttering.

Any game that dynamically loads new textures has a chance for stuttering. But you should be able to lessen it to a point where it isn't happening constantly and that is what you are shooting for.
 

mindcycle

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Don't give up on Gothic 3, it's a great game if you can get it to run decently. First, download the 1.6 patch - http://forum.jowood.com/showthread.php?t=151286

If it's still not running decently after the patch you're going to have to do some tweaks unfortunately. Specifically look at the ini tweaks. http://forum.jowood.com/showthread.php?t=151710

It took me awhile to get the game running ok on my rig after messing around with ini tweaks. It still stuttered a bit here and there but it was playable. You may decide it's not worth it but I figure i'd give you the link in case you decide to go that route. If Gothic 3 is the first Gothic game you've tried i'd definitely suggest checking out Gothic 2 first. It's the best game in the series IMO. It will make you want to tweak G3 and get it to work..
 

jakobkraft

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Originally posted by: mindcycle
Don't give up on Gothic 3, it's a great game if you can get it to run decently. First, download the 1.6 patch - http://forum.jowood.com/showthread.php?t=151286

If it's still not running decently after the patch you're going to have to do some tweaks unfortunately. Specifically look at the ini tweaks. http://forum.jowood.com/showthread.php?t=151710

It took me awhile to get the game running ok on my rig after messing around with ini tweaks. It still stuttered a bit here and there but it was playable. You may decide it's not worth it but I figure i'd give you the link in case you decide to go that route. If Gothic 3 is the first Gothic game you've tried i'd definitely suggest checking out Gothic 2 first. It's the best game in the series IMO. It will make you want to tweak G3 and get it to work..

Thanks, I'll give Gothic 2 a go and see...
 

JTsyo

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I thought 4 Gigs was the limit to 32-bit.

With me, vision and audio are kind of poor. The difference between regular and HD doesn't blow me away. Maybe I need to upgrade my hardware, which brand of bionic eyes are hot these days?
 

shortylickens

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Have noticed the same thing.
Theres a ton of folks who like to call themselves hardcore gamers, yet cant tell the difference between 10 frames per second and 30 frames per second.

I usually need a game to up around 45 or so just to be playable.
If it can get closer to my monitor refresh (85) then I am super happy.
 

Smilin

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For me it seems to depend greatly on the game what is actuallly "stuttering". For a RTS I won't notice graphics stuttering much but I'll notice sluggish input immediately. For prerendered video I seem more sensitive to the corresponding sound stuttering than the actual video.

Tearing has never been a huge bother. I spot it but it rarely bothers me enough to go looking for the vsync setting.

On the far end of my hardcore scale..

In Quake III I could *feel* the difference between 85 and 125fps even while running on a monitor that could only display 85. I could barely play if things got near 50-60fps. Running with a PS/2 (non tweaked) vs USB mouse was noticeable as well. I played that game a lot.
 

SonicIce

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Yea alot of people are like that. You were too for a long time! You just didn't know it. It's probably better because you enjoy the game more instead of worrying about performance which I think is a problem alot of people have. Then you spend less money on hardware too.
 

jakobkraft

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Originally posted by: ConstipatedVigilante
If a game's running at 50 frames or more, it's pretty damn smooth for me. I get pretty put-off at about 15-20.

While stuttering truly pisses me off, I'm actually fairly tolerant of low frame rates, not that my current system is insufficient but my first gaming rig (also used to play A LOT of Quake III, god that takes me back) I kept for a really long time, probably too long, and was playing games I had no business playing on a mid-level PIII machine.
Morrowind, I think, was a good example. It's a game that NEVER gave me high frame rates in most outdoor areas, certainly not in any of the cities. But it ran SMOOTHLY and I had no problem at all getting totally immersed in the environment. If the scenery passes me by slowly, that's okay. If it stops and starts in fits, like my character is having a seizure while walking...well, that's when I uninstall.
 

CP5670

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50fps is fine for me if it stays at that level at all times. Most modern games will drop down somewhere though, usually when you least want them to such as during a big fight.

I tend to run some games at lower resolution and AA settings than most other people with similar hardware and like to have some headroom available with the framerate, in order to keep the framerate consistently good during the entire course of a game. In many games, you get much worse performance at some point later in the game than what you see in all the benchmarks. The alien fights in Crysis are one example of this. I like that feel of consistently smooth motion better than almost any graphical effect.