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What has happened to me. Am i Crazy?

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Pandamonia

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So my Swift is 9 months old and has developed a mind of its own and is turning on randomly which googling says can be signs of a PCB problem in the monitor. Its going back to Amazon in the next couple of months for refund (love amazon)

So i have a choice between the 4k IPS 60hz, 34" IPS 100hz, 1440p 165hz IPS or another Swift TN 1440p 144hz. ALL GSYNC

Here is my problem!

IPS IS NOT GOOD TECH! For gaming it can SUCK! 4ms is not blur free and it IS there compared to 1ms TN. The colours are better but the Swifts colours are excellent and do not cost performance like pixel response. Also every IPS i have used the blacks are too black and black detail is poor due to IPS Glow and playing Rust/Dayz at night can be impossible and TN panels you can see everything like a real night scene.

The swift has made me a total TN convert and due to the 27" and distance between me and the screen i dont see colour shift especially since im gaming from a static position.

So i have used both tech and i have to say that TN has more benefits than IPS does for "Gaming" and this is why i use my rig.

That said i have not used the "new" IPS 100hz screens and i do fancy that 34" 3440x1440p as it has epic size resolution and 100hz Gsync. £999 cost i can live with.

Am i crazy? Maybe not as tft review do say the swift has advantages over its IPS brother!...

What are your views?
 
TN has 1ms response only for some transitions. The average and maximum is a higher.

If you look at the reviews of those screens on tftcentral you can see the difference between ips with good overdrive and tn isn't that big.

Your personal experience is probably not with those kind of ips screens, the first one was an acer that released half a year after the swift I believe.
 
Flapdrol1337 said:
TN has 1ms response only for some transitions. The average and maximum is a higher.

If you look at the reviews of those screens on tftcentral you can see the difference between ips with good overdrive and tn isn't that big.

Your personal experience is probably not with those kind of ips screens, the first one was an acer that released half a year after the swift I believe.
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My IPS was a HP 1440p 8ms
 
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/acer_xb270hu.htm

Under 6ms measured average g2g, the 8ms of the hp is probably the lowest measured value.

That was the first fast ips screen. There were a few overclockable ones, but those didn't really have overdrive so they were a blurry mess.

Ips screens still have the "ips glow" issue though, and many TN screens look fine to me, even though I've seen some that were awful. But I think the blur of ips screens is pretty much solved on these high end gaming ones, if you look at the pursuit camera tests on tftcentral.
 
Flapdrol1337 said:
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/acer_xb270hu.htm

Under 6ms measured average g2g, the 8ms of the hp is probably the lowest measured value.

That was the first fast ips screen. There were a few overclockable ones, but those didn't really have overdrive so they were a blurry mess.

Ips screens still have the "ips glow" issue though, and many TN screens look fine to me, even though I've seen some that were awful. But I think the blur of ips screens is pretty much solved on these high end gaming ones, if you look at the pursuit camera tests on tftcentral.
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What about black detail? i found blacks to dark on ips.
 
Pandamonia said:
What about black detail? i found blacks to dark on ips.
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You probably need to change your gamma settings to get the correct black balance. Windows has a built in "Calibrate Display" wizard that could help. Just type that into the windows search next to the start menu.

Also when was the last IPS you tried? I might be less sensitive to some issues people have, but my 5ms Dell (factory calibrated btw) is plenty fast enough with no blurring whatsoever, and there are much quicker IPS monitors available.
 
for a single display (~23" or smaller) viewing from only the optimal angle. a top quality tn panel is the gaming display of choice. u are clearly not crazy.

for any other usage. you have to reconsider ips.

hopefully oled will change all that.
 
Silverforce11 said:
Why not VA panels?

It has the advantages of TN but with IPS's viewing angles and good (not perfect IPS) colors.
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VA is nothing like TN, really. VA panels have slower, sometimes much slower, response times compared to TN panels.

TN: Worst contrast, bad to okay colors, fastest response times
VA: Best contrast, okay to good colors, slowest response times (of the 3)
IPS: Good contrast, good to great colors, mid to fast response times (in high end panels)
 
4K_shmoorK said:
VA is nothing like TN, really. VA panels have slower, sometimes much slower, response times compared to TN panels.

TN: Worst contrast, bad to okay colors, fastest response times
VA: Best contrast, okay to good colors, slowest response times (of the 3)
IPS: Good contrast, good to great colors, mid to fast response times (in high end panels)
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TN and IPS have about the same contrast.
 
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